Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kastor ville]

Yeah took but took 14 years and created 6 million refugees.

Right....No one in the West benefited from Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya being turned into failed states..think about the money spent there by NATO and the US.. Think about how much oil was removed from the system between syria, libya and Iraq, during that time. This makes the few remaining cartel even more powerful, and oil prices even higher....Europe is the one that paid for this in terms high energy costs and refugees. The US doesn't export or import in any meaningful amount to give a hoot. The only country that benefited was Israel. However,.Israel and the US had help, maybe not overtly but tacit approval of the GCC. This whole clusterfuck can be rolled up and hung around the neck of UAE, SA, Qatar and Bahrain..... These are the real villains in this tragedy, they let this happen....Approximately two million muslims are dead... Approximately three times that are homeless and refugees. Let's not even blame the West... First we blame the corrupt bastards who empowered the West to be able to kill and destroy their Muslim brethren.

 

[Shags101]

It is looking likely there will be an attack.

The best way to limit this attack would be for Iran to inflict serious damage within the first few days to US and Israeli forces. It's a small window of opportunity, if its not used properly they will be more brazen and destructive. Trumpy hasn't got the stomach for a protracted conflict so big damage at the start can startle them and create internal divisions.

Iranian leaders can't put their head in the sand and think strategic restraint is a workable strategy.

Honestly by now who knows but if trump attempts to overthrow Iranian government it’s not going to go down that easy they flinched because the threat of retaliation was real they thought they were going to have a Venezuela situation looks like everyone said from Israel to American intelligence they will retaliate and it won’t be a small coordinated attack like at Qatar.

I matter what happens if war does come and it’s not just some symbolic attack Iran will hit back at oil and military facilities all around the Middle East if they’re going down they’re taking everyone down with them Israel won’t come unscathed targets that were avoided won’t be this time civilian or Israel’s own nuclear sites guess what Israel hits Irans civilian infrastructure again will actually help Iran out the while we will rescue you our brothers but doesn’t really work with their destroy everything as retribution

 

[GWXP]

These US clowns try to put psychological pressure on Iran like if Iran is a 15 years old boy and a coward who is afraid to fight.

But in reality US fears consequences of a full-scale war with Iran.

Look at Yemen - US bombed Houthis for 3 months using F-18 and B-2 and failed - Houthis still attack ships in Bab-el-Mandeb and launch missiles at Israel.

These dumb Americans never learn...

 

[enroger]

There is a good argument against armed intervention for Trump that is in play now.

Bombing alone is not going to lead to regime change, they need boots on the ground or at least armed rebellion, they have neither.

Even if they succeed to effect a regime change, they risk deposing the incompetent Mullahs and replace it with far more competent military dictatorship with a IRGC take over.

Any regime change must involve armed force. While there are indeed a lot of western leaning liberals in Iran, those western cucks does not have access to organized armed force but the hardliners faction does.

 

[mangekyo]

Crazy scenes. Unclear if its January 8th or 18th

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[Khansaheeb]

Seems like US is gradually increasing forces for an attack on Iran , maybe kidnap Khamenei?

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[ustaad]

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[GWXP]

These are achievements of the Islamic Revolution in Iran according to Grok:


Capital stock is a value of all factories, houses, offices, roads, railways, ports, airports in a country.

Since 1979 Islamic Revolution capital stock of Iran has increased 7,6 times from 858bln$ in 1979 to 6,5trln$ in 2019



Note that this progress happened in Iran despite the imposed 8 year Iran-Iraq War and US sanctions.

 

[tsunset]

Reza Pahlavi and his wife have no nationality

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[Pak-Warrior]

So khamenei admitted that thousands of protestors are killed by Iran?

How about Internet? still down?

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/17/middleeast/iran-supreme-leader-khamenei-protests-criminal-trump-intl-latam

Look guys, in Iran Versus US/Israel, I will always support Iran and pray for better outcome for Iran. I will never support in my life for genocidal Israel or its backer the hegemonic US.

However, whenever I post something against the Iranian regime's actions against its own people then pro-regime people have no defense but make excuses. Do you guys really think Israel / US had gathered those 1000s of people. Trump only passed stupid statements AFTER the protests were already at their peak. Trump actually damaged the cause of protesters. People here were even down playing the protests and were saying oh nothing is happening, old videos are being posted. But they why internet was shutdown on whole population for so many days? and perhaps still is down majorly. Same people then started making statements Iran found a way to block Starlink. Oh ok! so you mean yes something really dark going on in Iran that regime so badly want to hide and control its own population. Yes that's what the world was saying on first place.

Brutal crackdown on own people and shutting down internet are condemnable tactics. Those Iranians were angry on their rulers and wanted change that can improve their daily lives, governance, flourishing economy and trade with the world. It does not necessarily mean that they all are zionist agents and certainly does not mean that they want a pro-israeli govt. Otherwise, any govt / regime can make this excuse against protests. So, to avoid such protests Iranian govt must revisit their policies. The electoral side of Iranian govt (President) can be given more powers from the Supreme leader. Iranians removed Shah (who was leader for life), but replace it with supreme leader who again is leader for life. Supreme leader must be elected for a set duration, it could be long even 10 years but it should never be For-life. Secondly, end that religious police and all that BS.

I believe most Iranians (both anti & pro regime) are very proud of their old persian history and are well wisher of Iran. No one should be suppressed in a manner that creates more divisions in the society. Otherwise, it will be a ticking time bomb. Those people who are killed by regime, their relatives, fathers, sons, & friends will never forget this. They will protest with more intensity next time.

 

[Liquidator]

So khamenei admitted that thousands of protestors are killed by Iran?

How about Internet? still down?

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/17/middleeast/iran-supreme-leader-khamenei-protests-criminal-trump-intl-latam

Look guys, in Iran Versus US/Israel, I will always support Iran and pray for better outcome for Iran. I will never support in my life for genocidal Israel or its backer the hegemonic US.

However, whenever I post something against the Iranian regime's actions against its own people then pro-regime people have no defense but make excuses. Do you guys really think Israel / US had gathered those 1000s of people. Trump only passed stupid statements AFTER the protests were already at their peak. Trump actually damaged the cause of protesters. People here were even down playing the protests and were saying oh nothing is happening, old videos are being posted. But they why internet was shutdown on whole population for so many days? and perhaps still is down majorly. Same people then started making statements Iran found a way to block Starlink. Oh ok! so you mean yes something really dark going on in Iran that regime so badly want to hide and control its own population. Yes that's what the world was saying on first place.

Brutal crackdown on own people and shutting down internet are condemnable tactics. Those Iranians were angry on their rulers and wanted change that can improve their daily lives, governance, flourishing economy and trade with the world. It does not necessarily mean that they all are zionist agents and certainly does not mean that they want a pro-israeli govt. Otherwise, any govt / regime can make this excuse against protests. So, to avoid such protests Iranian govt must revisit their policies. The electoral side of Iranian govt (President) can be given more powers from the Supreme leader. Iranians removed Shah (who was leader for life), but replace it with supreme leader who again is leader for life. Supreme leader must be elected for a set duration, it could be long even 10 years but it should never be For-life. Secondly, end that religious police and all that BS.

I believe most Iranians (both anti & pro regime) are very proud of their old persian history and are well wisher of Iran. No one should be suppressed in a manner that creates more divisions in the society. Otherwise, it will be a ticking time bomb. Those people who are killed by regime, their relatives, fathers, sons, & friends will never forget this. They will protest with more intensity next time.

Death penalty for armed traitors / terrorists perfectly acceptable.

These were not "protestors". Plenty of footage of armed groups rampaging throughout Iran....burning mosques specifically with children in them.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Death penalty for armed traitors / terrorists perfectly acceptable.

If anyone was "armed" then by all means give them death penality.

But I refuse to believe that 1000s of protestors doing an anti-govt protest were "armed" or "traitors". What if few "armed" people were inserted by regime themsevles and those few footage is made by the regime too to make an excuse to use brutal force on a protest against their iron fist rule?

Quite frankly any brutal regime can make this excuse easily. Myanmar junta kills their own people with same excuses. Killing 1000s of your own has no justification whatsoever! If you think 1000s of your own citizens have become zionist agents then you have lost already. BTW! zionist agents or "terrorists" dont have to wait for protests.. Why they just can't be doing bomb blasts all over as TTP used to do ? Why those terrorists or armed people are not blowing things in Iran when there is no protest? It makes no sense.

There is a difference between being pro-Iran and Pro-Iranian regime. You guys are mullah regime lovers, that regime is far from perfect and has created a definite division in the society. Its a ticking time bomb!

 

[Xerxes22]

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Trump wants the Iranian government to do a makeover so it’s easier to strike a deal. If Khamenai was smart he would decide to simply retire from politics and allow a makeover of the Iranian government.

Wether that’s IRGC lead or security national council lead or back to parliamentary system, I am not sure.

But Iran won’t be allowed back into world economy as long as Khamenai is leading. That much is certain.

Submissive slave mentality in effect

 

[Xerxes22]

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«it’s a religious war»

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"This is a religious war" - says the Gay senator.

 

[Xerxes22]

Dude these people . They think they would ever smell the air of heaven after slaughtering millions of Muslims.

But they believe even after f*cking their own daughters (Ivanka) that "GAAHD" is on their side. That "GAAHD" is with them because they have pale skin and blonde hair.