Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Makes zero difference what anyone posts here or on internet in general. Majority posters have zero understanding of wars, most people post because of opinion based biased thinking which is why posts do not match with realities and results. Fortunately mine do.



Countries you mentioned were never nation-states, thats why collapse was easy because of inner conflicts. Majority of synthetic countries carved out by colonialists westerners in last century collapsed or were divided due to grey area socio-economic imbalances. I hope you know the difference between a nationstate and state. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and others etc. They were socioeconomically un-natural from their few decade old creation. Turkey, Iran, Russia, China, Germany on the other hand went through massive wars and forceful divisions but sustained and even grew, wonder why? Countries fall when they are un-natural or artifical by design. The examples I gave are heritage weilding centuries old nation states (millenium old in case of Iran). These nations always bounce back because over thousands or hundreds of years their ruling elite has sorted out the differences within, the population is socio-econimically cohesive to the core despite foriegn attempts. External factors are never permanent, invader will come and go but permanent damage to state comes from within which in case of nation states is always minimal. Different topic.

Minus the socioeconomic understanding and you get doom gamer childish thinking of countries getting "destroyed", "devastated", "neutralized" which is how usual mass on internet thinks.
Back then, when a country was falling apart, there was still room for a strongman. a Nader Shah–type figure who could crush internal rivals and external enemies, centralize power, and rebuild through force. Outside powers didn’t have real-time surveillance, and full control over global banking and media like the collective west has today.
 
More Turkish weapons confiscated. Where is CIA and Mossad constantly getting Turkish weapons from? 🤔

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The Die was Cast when Israel's northern fronts (Lebanon and Syria) folded in early 2025. At that point, not only the Gaza war was lost but also the half century plan by the Israelis to totally neutralize Iran finally became within reach.
As long as Trump is the President, Netanyahu will not stop trying to finally take care of his Iran Problem.

Anyone who has ever played Chess games should be able to easily visualize what I am saying here, as did the planners in Washington and Tel Aviv!
 
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Khamenai confirms high death toll in the “thousands”. Not a good sign of stability.

Wait few months, lot will surface. That was organized urban war was planned but paralyzed because of all communication systems neutralized by Iranian govt and lot they are picking by geo fencing. A civil war was planned but seems Chinese and Russian equipment helped neutralized or may Iranian has its own home made equipment which block all signals.
This require separate thread. How Iranian govt paralyzed the whole uprising in a day or two.
 
More Turkish weapons confiscated. Where is CIA and Mossad constantly getting Turkish weapons from? 🤔

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They had planned to topple Iranian govt and next was Turkey and reestablished Military govt in Turkey....but... Erdogan also seems has less control on his own border and still has moles who are beyond his control.
 
Countries you mentioned were never nation-states, thats why collapse was easy because of inner conflicts. Majority of synthetic countries carved out by colonialists westerners in last century collapsed or were divided due to grey area socio-economic imbalances. I hope you know the difference between a nationstate and state. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and others etc. They were socioeconomically un-natural from their few decade old creation. Turkey, Iran, Russia, China, Germany on the other hand went through massive wars and forceful divisions but sustained and even grew, wonder why? Countries fall when they are un-natural or artifical by design. The examples I gave are heritage weilding centuries old nation states (millenium old in case of Iran). These nations always bounce back because over thousands or hundreds of years their ruling elite has sorted out the differences within, the population is socio-econimically cohesive to the core despite foriegn attempts. External factors are never permanent, invader will come and go but permanent damage to state comes from within which in case of nation states is always minimal. Different topic.

I want to share your optimism but I have my doubts.
Firstly, 'Iran' is not as monolithic as you seem to be implying. There are definitely fissures to be exploited. Pakistan also has those fissures and so does India. And I imagine the USA after 1776 also had the fissures, only if there were to be effectively exploited. Even in Alberta of a prosperous Canada, some think of breaking away from the underperforming losers in other Provinces, and that secession is possible one day!
Secondly, even in ethnically monolithic societies--by that I mean the same religion, sect, ethnicity, fissures are present where marginalized groups of people, with some 'charismatic' leader leading them, if assured of a better life, fall for foreign interventions and agendas.
It is all just the human nature!
 
Yes, happened before many times but Ayatollah leadership had more influence locally. This time their power has declined massively, Khamenei has no ally inside Iran right now including IRGC.



Media matters none. What western powers+Jews actually want is (in short since I wrote pages about this before)

(A) IRI stops fueling petro power to Yuan which they are increasingly doing to bring USD down chunk by chunk. They want IRI to enter western debt grip and trade in USD. IRI current moves signal to formation of petro-Yuan (Old BRICS plan).

(B) IRI stop showing fangs to Israel which will happen once the secular non Islamic Iran emerges, even with IRI flag. They want nuclear program and Missile (esp) power gone in exchange for a benign conventional imported military of few squadrons of fighter jets and ships and tanks like KSA, Egypt, Turkey etc that can be taken out through sanctions or shock strikes in case of threat to Israel or western interests.

Reza Pahlavi is asking for support to implement point A and B.
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One of the best outcome would be IRGC taking over Iran, putting the clerics in Iranian-made Gulag, removing the religion from the constitution and focus on national interests, put nationalists in charge of Iran, cut the Arab cucks fundings and focus everything on Iranian interests, develop ties with Pakistan, Türkiye and China
 
European banks and banking industry of the West
You need to find a seller, government officials and security forces willing to participate. When are you guys going to wake up? Dismantling the weapons corridors used to send arms to Israel enemies. Installing a pro-israel government. Shipping oil to Israel during the gaza genocide. Helping dismantle Hamas. Cornering Hezbollah. Sending arms to terrorists in Iran to topple the government. Is it always just a coincidence that Turkey is helping Israel against its enemies? Only the U.S can challenge Turkey when it comes to serving Israels interests in the region.
 
You need to find a seller, government officials and security forces willing to participate. When are you guys going to wake up? Dismantling the weapons corridors used to send arms to Israel enemies. Installing a pro-israel government. Shipping oil to Israel during the gaza genocide. Helping dismantle Hamas. Cornering Hezbollah. Sending arms to terrorists in Iran to topple the government. Is it always just a coincidence that Turkey is helping Israel against its enemies? Only the U.S can challenge Turkey when it comes to serving Israels interests in the region.


it could be any country, still does not absolve those who were resp. to identify these weapons inflow, before it even took place!

if it is not the case, then, one needs to ask!

whose interest, those resp. were serving?!
 
it could be any country, still does not absolve those who were resp. to identify these weapons inflow, before it even took place!

if it is not the case, then, one needs to ask!

whose interest, those resp. were serving?!
Analyze the chain of events I mentioned and you will find the answer.
 
Interesting read:

According to that WSJ report, Iran would have wiped out Israel’s main air defense interceptors had it launched one more missile barrage. Iran may not have known that at the time and agreed to the ceasefire that Trump imposed at Israel’s request.

 
The US already did incase you forgot. But were the lights permanently put out and commercial shipping docks destroyed? Are bases on both sides in the Middle East flattened? That’s not what is going on.


Look bud

Your American, I get you support your country, but your country is a irrational, erratic, extremist mess at the moment, and is doing the bidding of the Zionists and neo-cons

You are a danger to the world and you have destroy any concept of international law
 

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