Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics
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Oublious
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Foinikas
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I think we can all agree that Iran spent billions and billions of dollars on proxies and it eventually failed. It wasn't a bad idea. Especially in Lebanon and 20+30 years ago in Syria,but it eventually failed. Because if you don't have a strong army at home,you can spend all the money in the world on proxies and still get bombed.
Cash gk
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That argument ignores where this all actually started.
Iran didn’t wake up one day and decide to spend money on proxies for fun. The roots go back to 1953, when Iran’s democratically elected prime minister was removed in a foreign-backed coup, and a ruler was installed so outsiders could control Iran’s oil. Iranians had one simple demand: their resources should belong to them. For that, their sovereignty was taken away.
Let me put it this way: what if Turkey installed a “proper” prime minister in your country tomorrow? What would you do then? Accept it quietly? Call it democracy? Or resist it as foreign rule? Be honest.
When a country is constantly interfered with, sanctioned, sabotaged, and threatened, it adapts. Proxy networks weren’t a hobby; they were a defensive response to decades of intelligence warfare, regime-change efforts, and military pressure. That strategy worked for a long time in Lebanon and Syria, buying Iran strategic depth and deterrence.
You can argue that this strategy has reached its limits today—that’s a fair discussion. But saying it “failed” without acknowledging coups, sanctions, assassinations, and foreign interference is misleading. No country under permanent siege operates like a country at peace.
If you want to criticise Iran, start the story from the beginning—not from the part that suits your argument.
Watandar
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Why ? The question is why Turkey, for example , can invade and occupy two of its neighbors and sponsor proxies but anybody else cannot ?
Cash gk
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Foinikas
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Israel to help Greece counter drone swarms, boost cybersecurity | eKathimerini.com
Israel will help Greece develop technology to counter swarms of military drones as the two countries deepen defense cooperation in the eastern Mediterranean, Defense Minister Nikos Dendias said Tuesday.
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Israel to help Greece counter drone swarms, boost cybersecurity
Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz, left, and his Greek counterpart Nikos Dendias stand for the national anthems during a meeting in Athens Tuesday. [Thanassis Stavrakis/AP]
Israel will help Greece develop technology to counter swarms of military drones as the two countries deepen defense cooperation in the eastern Mediterranean, Defense Minister Nikos Dendias said Tuesday.
The pledge followed talks in Athens between Dendias and his Israeli counterpart Israel Katz, building on a December defense pact between Greece, Israel and Cyprus. Israel is already assisting Greece in building an air defense shield as part of the expanding cooperation.
“We agreed to exchange views and expertise so that we can counter unmanned platforms — specifically swarms of unmanned aerial vehicles and groups of unmanned underwater vehicles,” Dendias said, appearing alongside Katz. “Also, to work together to be able to forestall and stop threats in cyberspace.”
Katz called the partnership “an anchor of stability in the Mediterranean.”
Drone swarms – typically using small, low-cost craft that operate in coordination – reflect a broader shift in modern warfare, used for reconnaissance, defense and attempts to overwhelm opposing systems.
Dendias added that Greece is building on Israel’s example to boost its own defense industry.
“Our aim is for Greece, from a client state and a simple purchaser of defense systems to become a joint producer or a producer of relatively low-cost innovative products,” he said. Dendias said that this approach is already bearing fruit, from anti-drone systems in use by the Hellenic Navy to drones.
Greece, a high military spender relative to the size of its economy, remains locked in a long-running dispute with fellow NATO member Turkey over maritime boundaries and offshore resources.
The December agreement outlined a joint plan for combined exercises, special operations training and regular strategic consultations. It followed talks between the leaders of the three countries aimed at advancing maritime security and energy initiatives.
Earlier this week, an Israeli military official told Kathimerini that Israel will share with Greece operational experience from its use of US-made F-35 fighter jets as the two countries seek to deepen strategic cooperation amid growing instability in the Middle East. (AP, Kathimerini)
eIsQengiz
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Greek Press | Pentapostagma:
- EJDERHA, which is presented as one of the key elements of the Steel Dome, emits high-power electromagnetic waves.
- Since these waves travel at the speed of light, it is almost impossible to escape from EJDERHA.
- Compared to conventional missile systems, the cost per shot will be very low. Since it can operate as long as there is a power source, the possibility of running out of ammunition is practically zero.
- The Turks will add EJDERHA to their inventory this year. In ASELSAN’s capability demonstration, this weapon neutralized 3 wired FPV drones simultaneously. In the second scenario, EJDERHA shot down a wired FPV drone and a wireless drone located at different angles within seconds.
- All of this shows that the EJDERHA-AD 200 will be used specifically against Greek mini/micro UAVs in order to minimize losses during Turkish Armed Forces’ actions against our islands in the Aegean and Thrace.
- We expect Turkish naval commandos to receive support from EJDERHA during operations.
- Because if they attempt any action against Greece in the Aegean or the Evros region, it is certain that they will be met not only with intense defensive fire but also with a rain of UAVs/drones.
- Therefore, when planning our defense in the Aegean and the Evros basin, neutralizing the EJDERHA weapon should be our top priority
Greek media:After the "defeat" of the "Kurds" in Syria, the Turks breathed a sigh of relief. Now they will focus on other potential security problems.Turkish analysts are already saying "now it's your turn."
Foinikas
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That's where you get your news? From Pentapostagma?
Did you know it's a mostly Church and religious affairs kind of website?
eIsQengiz
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So no disagreement with the facts, just an ad hominem about the website?
Foinikas
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If tomorrow you check Pentapostagma and it says Greek Army is ready to take Constantinople back,will you call that a fact?
hyperman
INT'L MOD
guuurl, I've seen you cite greekcitytimes. shush. lol
Qaraca
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Which two country has Turkey invaded or occupied? Iraq? What should Turkey have done if Iraq itself was either unable or unwilling to combat Pkk within Iraq’s borders?
Or Syria? Same story.
There are real security concerns in both examples, not some imperialism cosplay.
Foinikas
Elite Member
Yeah like once or twice,when the stories were verified. Don't sush me loly
