ToddE
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I like heretic angle given to us. Sounds more edgy, anti-hero type.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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I like heretic angle given to us. Sounds more edgy, anti-hero type.
ToddE
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Jason B is a known zionist chimp, writing his wet dreams as "news".
Still pressure tactics and nothing else. What US wants from Iran is not to strengthen Yuan/RMB with this massive oil production and export to China. Israelis are pushing him for missile program but that is almost impossible right now so the end result will be at most a cosmetic theatrical exchange. Nothing beyond this suits US deeper state right now.
mangekyo
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Have you not seen the recent developments in Syria? Turkish backed forces freed all the ISIS prisoners after Turkey had a meeting with Barrack. The Iranian agents failed to cause civil war, so they need to send in ISIS with help from Turkey.
kastor ville
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This is just bs....probably cooked up by the Israeli Hasbara. Turkey is on record calling Trump telling them to avoid military strike on Iran, and then they offer 100k men for a ground invasion? What's in it for Turkey, a neighboring failed state? This doesn't sound real or credible.
StrategicBear
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I hope Iran really sinks a USN Aircraft Carrier and show the Americans HELL ON EARTH. Iran deserves to ### Trump as revenge for what he did to Soleimani, so this is what we call in Japanese 弔い合戦 for Soleimani if they launch a war on Iran.
I don't mean to sound warmongering but it is the Americans who wanted to start a War first with Iran and Muslim Countries for the sake of Zion...... They can't even use the protests as an excuse because this is an Internal Issue of Iran, just like Trump wouldn't like it if Foreign Countries meddle in ICE arrests in the USA.
I don't mean to sound warmongering but it is the Americans who wanted to start a War first with Iran and Muslim Countries for the sake of Zion...... They can't even use the protests as an excuse because this is an Internal Issue of Iran, just like Trump wouldn't like it if Foreign Countries meddle in ICE arrests in the USA.
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mangekyo
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Connect the dots my friend. Who was the main backer of ISIS, Nusra, HTS and all the terrorist anti-Assad forces? Who was most eager to dismantle the weapons corridor to Hezbollah? Who supplied Israel with fuel during the Gaza genocide?
What’s in it for Turkey? Regional dominance and control over Sunnis as long as they keep serving Israel and NATO.
vizier
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israel wants two of the threats gone in the region Turkey and Iran. The best way is to ignite a conflict between these countries for them so both isr and Usa wont use their own boots on the ground. They tried it in Azerbaijan Armania conflict and it didnt work because of good moves of both countries. Now next bait seems to be sdf. if Iran inclines to support sdf in Syria that will be used as an excuse to put a conflict between these two countries. It doesnt mean trust any leader or any country but think and make your own conclusions instead of the narrative that is pushed in the media.
I also hope from my countrys side that Syria wont be used as a jump point against Labennon or Iraq and it would be a mistake to take out israeli rivals under pretext of regional rivalry - Ottoman influence rebirth etc. which are in my opinion best suit israeli interests of threats neutralizing-weakening each other with rivalry narrative(with some secterian souce) to get support of the masses. Same with Yemen. It should be ensured that cooperation with Saudi arabia wont result in Turkish action against Houthis which are not our business in my opinion.
If both countries are aware of israeli plans and act accordingly not attacking but cooperating with each other then that would threaten israel much more.
I have my reasons for disliking him that are unrelated to Iran, yet his sentiment here is genuine. The pro-government Turkish television channels and newspapers are consistently covering the West's participation in the Iranian protests. Telling their viewers that foreign agents are undermining these protests.
Another aspect that frequently goes unnoticed is that Turkish Islamists, religious parties, or Conservatives typically hold a pro-IRI stance, which is rather unusual in the Middle East. Necmettin Erbakan, the individual who brought Erdoğan into the political arena, was known for his support of Iran. Eventually, Erdoğan distanced himself from him, similar to how Al Sharaa separated from Al Qaida.
Secondly, he went through something similar which is why our government reacts very allergic to mass protests:
Gezi Park protests - Wikipedia
He fears that any uprising in Iran could lead to new protests in Turkey. Happened during Arab Spring.
Right now, majority of Turks are absolutely against US intervention in Iran. That is the public opinion.
Homajon
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I have my reasons for disliking him that are unrelated to Iran, yet his sentiment here is genuine. The pro-government Turkish television channels and newspapers are consistently covering the West's participation in the Iranian protests. Telling their viewers that foreign agents are undermining these protests.
Another aspect that frequently goes unnoticed is that Turkish Islamists, religious parties, or Conservatives typically hold a pro-IRI stance, which is rather unusual in the Middle East. Necmettin Erbakan, the individual who brought Erdoğan into the political arena, was known for his support of Iran. Eventually, Erdoğan distanced himself from him, similar to how Al Sharaa separated from Al Qaida.
Secondly, he went through something similar which is why our government reacts very allergic to mass protests:
Gezi Park protests - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
He fears that any uprising in Iran could lead to new protests in Turkey. Happened during Arab Spring.
Right now, majority of Turks are absolutely against US intervention in Iran. That is the public opinion.
Aren't you the guy who after the war 7 months ago excitedly acted like a major Kurdish secessionist uprising was currently taking place in Iran and central authority lost all control over Kurdish regions?
shapurzolaktaf
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As I told and predicted that Erbil will be hit:
shafaq.com
Drone Attack on PAK Headquarters in Erbil - Shafaq News
Shafaq News– Erbil A drone struck the headquarters of the Kurdistan Freedom Party (PAK) in Erbil, the capital of Iraq’s Kurdistan Region, the party reported on Wednesday. In a statement, PAK con
shafaq.com
shapurzolaktaf
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A drone struck the headquarters of the Kurdistan Freedom Party (PAK) in Erbil, the capital of Iraq’s Kurdistan Region, the party reported on Wednesday.
In a statement, PAK confirmed the death of its member Mohammed Saleh Mohammadi, known as “Nebrez,” who also held a logistical role within the Kurdistan National Army. Another person sustained injuries in the strike.
The party linked the attack to Iran, while authorities in the Kurdistan Region have yet to issue an official response.
In a statement, PAK confirmed the death of its member Mohammed Saleh Mohammadi, known as “Nebrez,” who also held a logistical role within the Kurdistan National Army. Another person sustained injuries in the strike.
The party linked the attack to Iran, while authorities in the Kurdistan Region have yet to issue an official response.
Watandar
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Why would Iran do this ? Is this an anti-Iran or anti-Turk Kurdish party ?
Meengla
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I don't think any country in the Middle East except for Israel wants fragmented, destabilized neighbors. Even Pakistan, despite all the issues with Afghanistan, doesn't want anarchy like in the early 90s of Afghanistan.
Shags101
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Trump says Iran would be ‘wiped the off face of this earth’ if something happens to him
President Trump on Tuesday warned Iran that continued assassination threats made by leaders in Tehran would be met with the country getting “blown up.” “Well, they shouldn’t…
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