Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[StrategicBear]

I hope Iran really sinks a USN Aircraft Carrier and show the Americans HELL ON EARTH. Iran deserves to ### Trump as revenge for what he did to Soleimani, so this is what we call in Japanese 弔い合戦 for Soleimani if they launch a war on Iran.

I don't mean to sound warmongering but it is the Americans who wanted to start a War first with Iran and Muslim Countries for the sake of Zion...... They can't even use the protests as an excuse because this is an Internal Issue of Iran, just like Trump wouldn't like it if Foreign Countries meddle in ICE arrests in the USA.

 

[mangekyo]

This is just bs....probably cooked up by the Israeli Hasbara. Turkey is on record calling Trump telling them to avoid military strike on Iran, and then they offer 100k men for a ground invasion? What's in it for Turkey, a neighboring failed state? This doesn't sound real or credible.

Connect the dots my friend. Who was the main backer of ISIS, Nusra, HTS and all the terrorist anti-Assad forces? Who was most eager to dismantle the weapons corridor to Hezbollah? Who supplied Israel with fuel during the Gaza genocide?

What’s in it for Turkey? Regional dominance and control over Sunnis as long as they keep serving Israel and NATO.

 

[vizier]

Connect the dots my friend. Who was the main backer of ISIS, Nusra, HTS and all the terrorist anti-Assad forces? Who was most eager to dismantle the weapons corridor to Hezbollah? Who supplied Israel with fuel during the Gaza genocide?

What’s in it for Turkey? Regional dominance and control over Sunnis as long as they keep serving Israel and NATO.

israel wants two of the threats gone in the region Turkey and Iran. The best way is to ignite a conflict between these countries for them so both isr and Usa wont use their own boots on the ground. They tried it in Azerbaijan Armania conflict and it didnt work because of good moves of both countries. Now next bait seems to be sdf. if Iran inclines to support sdf in Syria that will be used as an excuse to put a conflict between these two countries. It doesnt mean trust any leader or any country but think and make your own conclusions instead of the narrative that is pushed in the media.
I also hope from my countrys side that Syria wont be used as a jump point against Labennon or Iraq and it would be a mistake to take out israeli rivals under pretext of regional rivalry - Ottoman influence rebirth etc. which are in my opinion best suit israeli interests of threats neutralizing-weakening each other with rivalry narrative(with some secterian souce) to get support of the masses. Same with Yemen. It should be ensured that cooperation with Saudi arabia wont result in Turkish action against Houthis which are not our business in my opinion.
If both countries are aware of israeli plans and act accordingly not attacking but cooperating with each other then that would threaten israel much more.

 

[Eşbah]

This is just bs....probably cooked up by the Israeli Hasbara. Turkey is on record calling Trump telling them to avoid military strike on Iran, and then they offer 100k men for a ground invasion? What's in it for Turkey, a neighboring failed state? This doesn't sound real or credible.

I have my reasons for disliking him that are unrelated to Iran, yet his sentiment here is genuine. The pro-government Turkish television channels and newspapers are consistently covering the West's participation in the Iranian protests. Telling their viewers that foreign agents are undermining these protests.

Another aspect that frequently goes unnoticed is that Turkish Islamists, religious parties, or Conservatives typically hold a pro-IRI stance, which is rather unusual in the Middle East. Necmettin Erbakan, the individual who brought Erdoğan into the political arena, was known for his support of Iran. Eventually, Erdoğan distanced himself from him, similar to how Al Sharaa separated from Al Qaida.

Secondly, he went through something similar which is why our government reacts very allergic to mass protests:

Gezi Park protests - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He fears that any uprising in Iran could lead to new protests in Turkey. Happened during Arab Spring.

Right now, majority of Turks are absolutely against US intervention in Iran. That is the public opinion.

 

[Homajon]

I have my reasons for disliking him that are unrelated to Iran, yet his sentiment here is genuine. The pro-government Turkish television channels and newspapers are consistently covering the West's participation in the Iranian protests. Telling their viewers that foreign agents are undermining these protests.

Another aspect that frequently goes unnoticed is that Turkish Islamists, religious parties, or Conservatives typically hold a pro-IRI stance, which is rather unusual in the Middle East. Necmettin Erbakan, the individual who brought Erdoğan into the political arena, was known for his support of Iran. Eventually, Erdoğan distanced himself from him, similar to how Al Sharaa separated from Al Qaida.

Secondly, he went through something similar which is why our government reacts very allergic to mass protests:

Gezi Park protests - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He fears that any uprising in Iran could lead to new protests in Turkey. Happened during Arab Spring.

Right now, majority of Turks are absolutely against US intervention in Iran. That is the public opinion.

Aren't you the guy who after the war 7 months ago excitedly acted like a major Kurdish secessionist uprising was currently taking place in Iran and central authority lost all control over Kurdish regions?

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

As I told and predicted that Erbil will be hit:

Drone Attack on PAK Headquarters in Erbil - Shafaq News

Shafaq News– Erbil A drone struck the headquarters of the Kurdistan Freedom Party (PAK) in Erbil, the capital of Iraq’s Kurdistan Region, the party reported on Wednesday. In a statement, PAK con

shafaq.com

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

A drone struck the headquarters of the Kurdistan Freedom Party (PAK) in Erbil, the capital of Iraq’s Kurdistan Region, the party reported on Wednesday.

In a statement, PAK confirmed the death of its member Mohammed Saleh Mohammadi, known as “Nebrez,” who also held a logistical role within the Kurdistan National Army. Another person sustained injuries in the strike.

The party linked the attack to Iran, while authorities in the Kurdistan Region have yet to issue an official response.

 

[Watandar]

A drone struck the headquarters of the Kurdistan Freedom Party (PAK) in Erbil, the capital of Iraq’s Kurdistan Region, the party reported on Wednesday.

In a statement, PAK confirmed the death of its member Mohammed Saleh Mohammadi, known as “Nebrez,” who also held a logistical role within the Kurdistan National Army. Another person sustained injuries in the strike.

The party linked the attack to Iran, while authorities in the Kurdistan Region have yet to issue an official response.

Why would Iran do this ? Is this an anti-Iran or anti-Turk Kurdish party ?

 

[Meengla]

I don't think any country in the Middle East except for Israel wants fragmented, destabilized neighbors. Even Pakistan, despite all the issues with Afghanistan, doesn't want anarchy like in the early 90s of Afghanistan.

 

[Shags101]

Trump says Iran would be ‘wiped the off face of this earth’ if something happens to him

President Trump on Tuesday warned Iran that continued assassination threats made by leaders in Tehran would be met with the country getting “blown up.” “Well, they shouldn’t…

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You got to live this guy willing to massacre the whole population of Iran if Iran somehow were to take him out but he threatens death and destruction on all seriously Antichrist vibe

 

[NA71]

 

[ToddE]

Erdoo is useful as hell for Israelis right now. They used him in Syria to topple Assad so Hezbollah, Hamas get disconnected from Iran-Iraq. Now Hamas is dead, Gazans have been holocausted. Hezbollah will now be freely eradicated by Israel in future and Lebanon will be turned into rubble by Israel. Israelis do not leave potential threat. The same Hezbollah that borderline won the war against Israel in 2006 just because it was connected to Iran through Syria. Soleimani's IRGC was on ground. Now this group is helpless thanks to Erdogan. Israel is secure from immediate border opposition thanks to Erdogan. I dont care truth be told, Israel may annex entire Arab league for all I care but I am just stating the facts.

If looked at bigger picture, Erdogan effectively got the Turkish strategic sovereignty neutralized by putting Turkey under massive ~550 Billion USD western debt so that state can be directly controlled by western creditors. Those who feed you, rule you. Same Erdogan that talks against Israel and stupid people fall for him, kept supplying 5-6 Billion USD worth raw material to Israel and still is doing that like a loyal servant, while Sunni Arabs are being turned into meat shreds by Israeli PGMs.

Turkish general public may not feel this way but Erdogan is an Israeli installed entity. His every single move points to that.

 

[mangekyo]

Erdoo is useful as hell for Israelis right now. They used him in Syria to topple Assad so Hezbollah, Hamas get disconnected from Iran-Iraq. Now Hamas is dead, Gazans have been holocausted. Hezbollah will now be freely eradicated by Israel in future and Lebanon will be turned into rubble by Israel. Israelis do not leave potential threat. The same Hezbollah that borderline won the war against Israel in 2006 just because it was connected to Iran through Syria. Soleimani's IRGC was on ground. Now this group is helpless thanks to Erdogan. Israel is secure from immediate border opposition thanks to Erdogan. I dont care truth be told, Israel may annex entire Arab league for all I care but I am just stating the facts.

If looked at bigger picture, Erdogan effectively got the Turkish strategic sovereignty neutralized by putting Turkey under massive ~550 Billion USD western debt so that state can be directly controlled by western creditors. Those who feed you, rule you. Same Erdogan that talks against Israel and stupid people fall for him, kept supplying 5-6 Billion USD worth raw material to Israel and still is doing that like a loyal servant, while Sunni Arabs are being turned into meat shreds by Israeli PGMs.

Turkish general public may not feel this way but Erdogan is an Israeli installed entity. His every single move points to that.

Yep. Heretic Khomeini bet on the wrong horse. Our real enemy was never Israel, it was Russia and our Muslim brothers.

 

[mangekyo]

Israel is only tolerating Turkish expansionism because they are countering AoR and doing Israel’s dirty work on the ground. Soon all these ISIS groups Turkey have turned its proxies to protect Israel will become a potential headache for Zion. It doesn’t matter that Turkey is in NATO and that Israel can easily control Turkey by manipulating Turkish inflation like they did recently. Israel does not allow any regional competitors. Current Turkish leadership is pro-Israel. But Turkish people are ultra nationalistic, there is no guarantee the future leadership will be pro-israel.

Now is the perfect time for an IRGC Coup. Vast majority of Iranians will support it if Artesh is onboard. There will be no civil war. Best strategy forward is to become secular and end all hostilities with Israel as long as they stay away from Iraq. There is no alternative path forward unless IRI wants to sacrifice Iran for the sake of protecting an ummah that secretly (many even openly) wishes for its death.

@Emirzad what’s your take on this?

 

[tsunset]

Khamenei should be put into assisted living facility if Iran wants to move on

Arab Sunnis don't care of Iran, why we should care of them? Khamenei needs to retire into nursing home, his time is over