Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

So why are these accounts claiming they deployed more than first and second Iraq war combined?

Fake news?

Yes fake news.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Western alliance only need to take down:

1. those BM sites which can attack their bases; and
2. those HVT which are protecting the regime heads

rest, will be taken care of by ground CIA operatives

on the other hand, IR needs to:

1. protect all BM and sites
2. ensure safety of regime heads

Expected Results:

IR regime wins, as it can easily take down on the ground operatives (without losing too many regime supporters)

and, it only needs to fire as many BM which are enough to deter to the enemy

 

[aerospace_enthusiast_newb]

more forces to the Middle East than during the First Gulf War, Second Gulf War, and the Iraq War combined is a pile of horse shit?

The total number of U.S. aircraft deployed in Gulf War: Roughly 1800 fixed-wing aircraft. This increased to 2780 fixed-wing aircraft when counting the entire coalition. Additionally, the U.S. deployed roughly 1700 rotary aircraft. That's 3500 aircraft from the U.S. alone.

Total number of U.S. aircraft in the 2003 Iraq war was roughly 1600 fixed-wing aircraft and another 500-600 rotary aircraft. Total was around 2100-2200.

You have to be really fucking stupid to think that they are deploying more aircraft than those two combined.

 

[Liquidator]

Hopefully Iran didn't worked on its BM program for 45 years just to get them all deactivated by bombing the entrances

We will find out soon enough brother. Secret entrances are likely but knowing how badly they are infiltrated I hope they remain "secret,".

 

[kastor ville]

The fact that Bibi recently said IL is ready for iranian strikes indicates IMHO that there will be an attack

Now the u.s. buildup is mostly aimed at protecting IL

so the attack might come from IL or be limited u.s strikes to decapitate the head of state ( Pezeshkian ????? ROFL)

I think they're going to build consensus first before attacking. I think they will stop the oil tankers hoping to provoke Iran to attack and then use the pretext to attack Iran. Because the rhetoric isn't matching the pieces on the board... it leads me to believe they're slow walking the attack, knowing there is no element of surprise this time.....they want to slowly choke us out.

 

[Kyussis]

more forces to the Middle East than during the First Gulf War, Second Gulf War, and the Iraq War combined is a pile of horse shit?

You realize that for the the desert storm the U.S deployed over 200 000 troops and for the operation Iraq freedom they deployed over 100 000 troops. Do you believe the U.S has deployed more than 300 000 troops this time around?

 

[mulj]

I think they're going to build consensus first before attacking. I think they will stop the oil tankers hoping to provoke Iran to attack and then use the pretext to attack Iran. Because the rhetoric isn't matching the pieces on the board... it leads me to believe they're slow walking the attack, knowing there is no element of surprise this time.....they want to slowly choke us out.

They want to burn out iranian military planners with constant anticipation and by that weaken guard and readiness of armed forces for real attack once it comes.
Biggest challenge for Iran will be choosing right retaliation targets and prolonging war as much as they could, i see that only as viable strategy per given circumstances, it is sad reality.

 

[Meengla]

They want to burn out iranian military planners with constant anticipation and by that weaken guard and readiness of armed forces for real attack once it comes.
Biggest challenge for Iran will be choosing right retaliation targets and prolonging war as much as they could, i see that only as viable strategy per given circumstances, it is sad reality.

There are plenty of analysts--both Westerners and Iranians--who say that Iran still holds a large lethal missile and/or regionally disruptive capabilities and I believe that's the only reason that Iran has not been attacked yet.

But Netanyahu, as long as Trump is the President, will keep probing options to attack Iran but he has yet to find a 100% compliant American President. It is very important to note that before the 2024 elections, the VP Candidate J.D. Vance was strongly opposed to attacking Iran but since becoming the VP, he has been quiet, just as expected of the VPs. But I also think there was/is a strong Muslim countries push back on attacking Iran, mostly for their own interests, and Trump cannot ignore them. In Trump's 'bottomline', despite all his love for Israel, there is net gain of $ from the Islamic countries vs a parasite like Israel, useful as Israel maybe in some ways. Noticed how he expressed his real thoughts about 'Bibi' shooting down Iranian missiles in Davos.

In short, while Netanyahu has his best historically possible American President in office right now, there are regional constraints imposed on America and by extension on Netanyahu.

 

[Ali_Baba]

How will Iran retaliate when the first few hours will focus on damaging their BM launch sites?

I have no answer to this.....it's not looking good

They have a use it or lose it problem given the lack of capable military jets, and whatever the true state/capability of their IADS is.

 

[mulj]

There are plenty of analysts--both Westerners and Iranians--who say that Iran still holds a large lethal missile and/or regionally disruptive capabilities and I believe that's the only reason that Iran has not been attacked yet.

But Netanyahu, as long as Trump is the President, will keep probing options to attack Iran but he has yet to find a 100% compliant American President. It is very important to note that before the 2024 elections, the VP Candidate J.D. Vance was strongly opposed to attacking Iran but since becoming the VP, he has been quiet, just as expected of the VPs. But I also think there was/is a strong Muslim countries push back on attacking Iran, mostly for their own interests, and Trump cannot ignore them. In Trump's 'bottomline', despite all his love for Israel, there is net gain of $ from the Islamic countries vs a parasite like Israel, useful as Israel maybe in some ways. Noticed how he expressed his real thoughts about 'Bibi' shooting down Iranian missiles in Davos.

In short, while Netanyahu has his best historically possible American President in office right now, there are regional constraints imposed on America and by extension on Netanyahu.

If i am iranian leader in response i would only target zio colony as they are attacked on their behalf anyway, i see it as most reasonable option as it will least enrage world wide public even as much as it seems strange.
Punching some bases in gulf do not have particular value beside destroying radars so limited punches on them should be considered also.
But knowing so far how iranians work they will make calculated counter attack and be by default in inferior position because of it.
That is easier part of the war for them, harder one will be to maintain cohesion of armed forces and rockets units and if war goes in long term air raids ability to sustain war time economy and military production. Also they should send message if their any oil facility targeted that equates closing of gulf straits and targeting oil infrastructure in region wherever usa has stakeholds.

 

[VCheng]

There are plenty of analysts--both Westerners and Iranians--who say that Iran still holds a large lethal missile and/or regionally disruptive capabilities and I believe that's the only reason that Iran has not been attacked yet.

Iran is useful to keep the other side of the Arabian Gulf united against it and within the US camp, so defeating it completely serves no useful purpose, as long as it remains contained without instigating proxies elsewhere.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Iran is useful to keep the other side of the Arabian Gulf united against it and within the US camp, so defeating it completely serves no useful purpose, as long as it remains contained without instigating proxies elsewhere.

of course, it holds Arab oil neck!

 

[Xerxes22]

I had my first Sundis last week so you can technically call me a Sundis Khor if you like. How they hell you think I am drawing paycheques from the Islamic Republic while I live in Canada? I hope I don't have any credit with Garb Geda idiots like you who have been wrong about Iran going on 47 years now!

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[tsunset]

Iran is useful to keep the other side of the Arabian Gulf united against it and within the US camp, so defeating it completely serves no useful purpose, as long as it remains contained without instigating proxies elsewhere.

Arabian Gulf

Where is this? A new ocean found on Mars? If yes this is a huge step forward for humanity

 

[mangekyo]

of course, it holds Arab oil neck!

Not anymore. AoR is no longer a threat. Iran has little network left in the Middle East except for a weakened network in Iraq.