Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kastor ville]

The fact that Bibi recently said IL is ready for iranian strikes indicates IMHO that there will be an attack

Now the u.s. buildup is mostly aimed at protecting IL

so the attack might come from IL or be limited u.s strikes to decapitate the head of state ( Pezeshkian ????? ROFL)

I think they're going to build consensus first before attacking. I think they will stop the oil tankers hoping to provoke Iran to attack and then use the pretext to attack Iran. Because the rhetoric isn't matching the pieces on the board... it leads me to believe they're slow walking the attack, knowing there is no element of surprise this time.....they want to slowly choke us out.

 

[Kyussis]

more forces to the Middle East than during the First Gulf War, Second Gulf War, and the Iraq War combined is a pile of horse shit?

You realize that for the the desert storm the U.S deployed over 200 000 troops and for the operation Iraq freedom they deployed over 100 000 troops. Do you believe the U.S has deployed more than 300 000 troops this time around?

 

[mulj]

I think they're going to build consensus first before attacking. I think they will stop the oil tankers hoping to provoke Iran to attack and then use the pretext to attack Iran. Because the rhetoric isn't matching the pieces on the board... it leads me to believe they're slow walking the attack, knowing there is no element of surprise this time.....they want to slowly choke us out.

They want to burn out iranian military planners with constant anticipation and by that weaken guard and readiness of armed forces for real attack once it comes.
Biggest challenge for Iran will be choosing right retaliation targets and prolonging war as much as they could, i see that only as viable strategy per given circumstances, it is sad reality.

 

[Meengla]

They want to burn out iranian military planners with constant anticipation and by that weaken guard and readiness of armed forces for real attack once it comes.
Biggest challenge for Iran will be choosing right retaliation targets and prolonging war as much as they could, i see that only as viable strategy per given circumstances, it is sad reality.

There are plenty of analysts--both Westerners and Iranians--who say that Iran still holds a large lethal missile and/or regionally disruptive capabilities and I believe that's the only reason that Iran has not been attacked yet.

But Netanyahu, as long as Trump is the President, will keep probing options to attack Iran but he has yet to find a 100% compliant American President. It is very important to note that before the 2024 elections, the VP Candidate J.D. Vance was strongly opposed to attacking Iran but since becoming the VP, he has been quiet, just as expected of the VPs. But I also think there was/is a strong Muslim countries push back on attacking Iran, mostly for their own interests, and Trump cannot ignore them. In Trump's 'bottomline', despite all his love for Israel, there is net gain of $ from the Islamic countries vs a parasite like Israel, useful as Israel maybe in some ways. Noticed how he expressed his real thoughts about 'Bibi' shooting down Iranian missiles in Davos.

In short, while Netanyahu has his best historically possible American President in office right now, there are regional constraints imposed on America and by extension on Netanyahu.

 

[Ali_Baba]

How will Iran retaliate when the first few hours will focus on damaging their BM launch sites?

I have no answer to this.....it's not looking good

They have a use it or lose it problem given the lack of capable military jets, and whatever the true state/capability of their IADS is.

 

[mulj]

There are plenty of analysts--both Westerners and Iranians--who say that Iran still holds a large lethal missile and/or regionally disruptive capabilities and I believe that's the only reason that Iran has not been attacked yet.

But Netanyahu, as long as Trump is the President, will keep probing options to attack Iran but he has yet to find a 100% compliant American President. It is very important to note that before the 2024 elections, the VP Candidate J.D. Vance was strongly opposed to attacking Iran but since becoming the VP, he has been quiet, just as expected of the VPs. But I also think there was/is a strong Muslim countries push back on attacking Iran, mostly for their own interests, and Trump cannot ignore them. In Trump's 'bottomline', despite all his love for Israel, there is net gain of $ from the Islamic countries vs a parasite like Israel, useful as Israel maybe in some ways. Noticed how he expressed his real thoughts about 'Bibi' shooting down Iranian missiles in Davos.

In short, while Netanyahu has his best historically possible American President in office right now, there are regional constraints imposed on America and by extension on Netanyahu.

If i am iranian leader in response i would only target zio colony as they are attacked on their behalf anyway, i see it as most reasonable option as it will least enrage world wide public even as much as it seems strange.
Punching some bases in gulf do not have particular value beside destroying radars so limited punches on them should be considered also.
But knowing so far how iranians work they will make calculated counter attack and be by default in inferior position because of it.
That is easier part of the war for them, harder one will be to maintain cohesion of armed forces and rockets units and if war goes in long term air raids ability to sustain war time economy and military production. Also they should send message if their any oil facility targeted that equates closing of gulf straits and targeting oil infrastructure in region wherever usa has stakeholds.

 

[VCheng]

There are plenty of analysts--both Westerners and Iranians--who say that Iran still holds a large lethal missile and/or regionally disruptive capabilities and I believe that's the only reason that Iran has not been attacked yet.

Iran is useful to keep the other side of the Arabian Gulf united against it and within the US camp, so defeating it completely serves no useful purpose, as long as it remains contained without instigating proxies elsewhere.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Iran is useful to keep the other side of the Arabian Gulf united against it and within the US camp, so defeating it completely serves no useful purpose, as long as it remains contained without instigating proxies elsewhere.

of course, it holds Arab oil neck!

 

[Xerxes22]

I had my first Sundis last week so you can technically call me a Sundis Khor if you like. How they hell you think I am drawing paycheques from the Islamic Republic while I live in Canada? I hope I don't have any credit with Garb Geda idiots like you who have been wrong about Iran going on 47 years now!

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[tsunset]

Iran is useful to keep the other side of the Arabian Gulf united against it and within the US camp, so defeating it completely serves no useful purpose, as long as it remains contained without instigating proxies elsewhere.

Arabian Gulf

Where is this? A new ocean found on Mars? If yes this is a huge step forward for humanity

 

[mangekyo]

of course, it holds Arab oil neck!

Not anymore. AoR is no longer a threat. Iran has little network left in the Middle East except for a weakened network in Iraq.

 

[VCheng]

of course, it holds Arab oil neck!

You mean the Strait of Hormuz?

 

[VCheng]

Where is this? A new ocean found on Mars? If yes this is a huge step forward for humanity

As far as Iran is concerned, it does not exist. Nothing to see here.

 

[Liquidator]

It is high time for another Sunni take over of Iran.

On average every 250 years a sunni dynasty or element invades or conquered Iran but this has not happened for the last 300 years now which is a rare but I guess it is about time to flip Iran back to flip Iran back to it´s original path.

I would welcome a Turkish, American and Ahmed Al Sharaa invasion into Iran.

I think the Iranian would surrender immediately and would be gripped by terror at the sight of the 500.000 forces Sharaa will field.

I could this happening on Trump´s 3rd term and by that I mean someone from his team will take over.

-Tell me you are a retard without telling me you are a retard.

-how retarded do you want it?
YES

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3 options, take your pick.

 

[Watandar]

It is high time for another Sunni take over of Iran.

On average every 250 years a sunni dynasty or element invades or conquered Iran but this has not happened for the last 300 years now which is rare but I guess it is about time to flip Iran back to flip Iran back to it´s original path hence flipping it twice first removing the mullahs then the liberals.

I would welcome a Turkish, American and Ahmed Al Sharaa invasion into Iran.

I think the Iranian would surrender immediately and would be gripped by terror at the sight of the 500.000 forces Sharaa will field.

I could this happening on Trump´s 3rd term and by that I mean someone from his team will take over.

I am glad I have you on my Ignore list.