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Makes zero sense to make a 450 km ballistic missile when Fatah-2 with 400 km exists. It's more likely that Abdali 2 shares lineage with Fatah-2 and Fatah-3 is something else entirely in the 700-750km range.
It’s officially 450Km (watch from 3:00 mins):

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That’s why I want to believe it’s some development of YJ12 or some other supersonic cruise missile design (theory 2).
 
It’s officially 450Km (watch from 3:00 mins):

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That’s why I want to believe it’s some development of YJ12 or some other supersonic cruise missile design (theory 2).

Thanks, I had missed that entirely. It's certainly possible then. Or maybe what was originally meant to be Fatah-3 will now only serve the nuclear role (the new Abdali), and the Fatah-3 designation will be reused for something new.
 
Thanks, I had missed that entirely. It's certainly possible then. Or maybe what was originally meant to be Fatah-3 will now only serve the nuclear role (the new Abdali), and the Fatah-3 designation will be reused for something new.
@Panzerkiel knows very well he teased us in July and has been quite ever since.
Actually there are two abdali which one will be called F3 is just a guess
 
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@Panzerkiel @side-winder @Bilal

Lesson to be learned here? for our newly created missile force?

We need to study Iranian missile tech as well - looks sophisticated...
 
Also this...

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Does Pakistan have cluster warheads in its missiles? Does this help with its survivability? If Pakistan was targeting India’s economic centres or large military installations and its cluster warhead missile dispersed the cluster right at the max range of Indian anti BM interceptor missiles.
 
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@Panzerkiel @side-winder @Bilal

Lesson to be learned here? for our newly created missile force?

We need to study Iranian missile tech as well - looks sophisticated...

No it doesnt..its look very rudimentary

Pakistan needs to mass production MRLV vechile ababeel which it never tested again (probably because of pressure) and needs to reactivate its intercontinental system

Find issues with its economy, mive towards Chinese payment system, diversify it reserve currency and get food energy security figured out

Cant just depend on remittances
 
No it doesnt..its look very rudimentary

Pakistan needs to mass production MRLV vechile ababeel which it never tested again (probably because of pressure) and needs to reactivate its intercontinental system

Find issues with its economy, mive towards Chinese payment system, diversify it reserve currency and get food energy security figured out

Cant just depend on remittances
Ababeel is a curious case of cobbling together already tried and tested components.
The first and second stages are from Shaheen-3, and they been tested multiple times. The third stage is from SUPARCO satellite launch program. Not sure when , how , and how many times that stage was tested. The warhead is from Shaheen-3 and Shaheen 1-A , and three of those. That too had been launched multiple times and tested.
 
Ababeel is a curious case of cobbling together already tried and tested components.
The first and second stages are from Shaheen-3, and they been tested multiple times. The third stage is from SUPARCO satellite launch program. Not sure when , how , and how many times that stage was tested. The warhead is from Shaheen-3 and Shaheen 1-A , and three of those. That too had been launched multiple times and tested.

Second stage seems little longer than S-2 second stage.
 
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In addition to this cluster munitions, iran is also firing a strange one. The warhead fires another warhead like a rocket.
Saw the video , and never seen anything like that .
 

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