Bangladesh will not play T20 World Cup games in India over safety concerns

[Kambojaric]

Pakistan should not leave Bangladesh alone in its fight against ICC better called Indian Cricket Council.
TIME TO SHAKE UP ICC HOSTAGE BY BCCI
Pakistan must boycott the T20 WC if BD does not play the tournament.
This is the only time to break ICC HOSTAGE taking by India.
Give em a F^ck.

I agree. Next time ICC will target PCB. Precedents matter. If two countries of 450 million people boycott then investors feel it.

 

[Owaiz]

This simply not true.

The "marquee fixture" vs. Pakistan on each tournament is one of the most lucrative fixtures for BCCI.

Sure, they can live without this fixture. So they shouldn‘t mind losing it permanently.

You seem to be frozen in time. India vs Pakistan used to be a marquee fixture when Pakistan had legends or greats like Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Wasim Akram, Inzi and Shoaib Akhtar. These players had fan following in India for their on and off field exploits and even the relationship between the two countries was at its nadir, the BCCI would find ways to play Pakistan outside of the World Cups in the Middle East or North America. Now, Pakistan has a second tier team and cricket is dominated by the Big 3.

Sure, the once in a blue moon India Pakistan games in the ICC tournaments still generate public interest in India, but that is mostly for a one-off "mauka mauka" tomfoolery by advertisers and the media. As far as bilateral cricket is concerned, it is the series between the Big 3 that bring in the interest and moolah.

 

[Owaiz]

India has repeatedly requested us to visit kolkata to play the t20 tournament. But it's we who just shot ourselves in the foot, and now there is nobody beside us to support or justify our illogical demand.

Wait untill every other team stops visiting Bangladesh and cricket becomes like every other sports where players struggle to fulfill their basic needs such as food and shelter. That's exactly where we r heading.

Come on man, India is hardly the innocent party in all of this. They were the one who poked Bangladesh, but I don't disagree that the BCB and government of Bangladesh shot themselves in the foot by upping the stakes when they had no cards to play with.

 

[Owaiz]

Pakistan should not leave Bangladesh alone in its fight against ICC better called Indian Cricket Council.
TIME TO SHAKE UP ICC HOSTAGE BY BCCI
Pakistan must boycott the T20 WC if BD does not play the tournament.
This is the only time to break ICC HOSTAGE taking by India.
Give em a F^ck.

Don't put your faith in the $$$ worshippers running the PCB.

 

[Dalit]

Pakistan should not leave Bangladesh alone in its fight against ICC better called Indian Cricket Council.
TIME TO SHAKE UP ICC HOSTAGE BY BCCI
Pakistan must boycott the T20 WC if BD does not play the tournament.
This is the only time to break ICC HOSTAGE taking by India.
Give em a F^ck.

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[maxpane]

Pak should not take part in this world cup

 

[Jaeger]

I agree. Next time ICC will target PCB. Precedents matter. If two countries of 450 million people boycott then investors feel it.

Well we can only hope Pakistan boycotts the tournament without any strong reasoning behind it, especially since all other countries have agreed to travel to Sri Lanka to accommodate Pakistan.

That would make India's job very easy.

BCCI will not only make up for the investor losses from its own pocket but at the same time reimburse all the member nations for any losses suffered due to Pakistan's and Bangladesh's non participation, as long ICC collectively votes to ban/suspend Bangladesh and Pakistan,(especially Pakistan) from ICC.

 

[Thinking]

Now that this is over, when is this "tournament" anyways? I don't watch cricket. I hope Scotland puts up better showing than BD.

 

[r3alist]

Come on man, India is hardly the innocent party in all of this. They were the one who poked Bangladesh, but I don't disagree that the BCB and government of Bangladesh shot themselves in the foot by upping the stakes when they had no cards to play with.

Slightly Crazy take.

If Indians consider cricket as their sport, which they do, then you have to respond back with the leverage you have.

It's that simple

Test cricket is not like football with an abundance of Nations, in many ways the established Nations need to remain established because essentially this was a commonwealth game, that does not have significant reach or infrastructure outside of these.

We have seen for various reasons a decline in West Indies and this is to the loss of cricket, I am not too up to date but the calibre of players is not the same

This is of course not indias fault about the West Indies, but if they have custodianship of the sport they should not be antagonizing the remaining Nations, it was bound to go this way at some point.

 

[Owaiz]

Slightly Crazy take.

If Indians consider cricket as their sport, which they do, then you have to respond back with the leverage you have.

It's that simple

Test cricket is not like football with an abundance of Nations, in many ways the established Nations need to remain established because essentially this was a commonwealth game, that does not have significant reach or infrastructure outside of these.

We have seen for various reasons a decline in West Indies and this is to the loss of cricket, I am not too up to date but the calibre of players is not the same

This is of course not indias fault about the West Indies, but if they have custodianship of the sport they should not be antagonizing the remaining Nations, it was bound to go this way at some point.

The fact is that the BCB never had much leverage because the ICC is essentially the BCCI. If they don't want to play in India because of what happened with the IPL as a matter of principle, that is fine and they should just have withdrawn from the tournament. Instead, even after everything is settled, they are still sending mails to the ICC saying they want to play in SL, when it was always clear that the ICC was not going to entertain any requests from them.

As for Test cricket, my opinion is that there are too many teams with Test status. Except for the few top teams, the rest are not competitive at all and many matches are boringly one-sided. There is not a lot of interest in watching one-sided games that are decided within the first couple of days. If cricket is to grow, it would have to be in the shorter formats, where the weaker teams still have a shot.

In any case, the BCCI is making a lot of money from the IPL, which is solely under their control. They may pay lip service to growing cricket internationally, but they know the money is mostly going to be coming from the big 3, and maybe SA and NZ and for them that is what matters at the end of the day because for them cricket is more of a business and profession than a sport. Competitive cricket stopped being a gentleman's game long ago.

 

[r3alist]

The fact is that the BCB never had much leverage because the ICC is essentially the BCCI. If they don't want to play in India because of what happened with the IPL as a matter of principle, that is fine and they should just have withdrawn from the tournament. Instead, even after everything is settled, they are still sending mails to the ICC saying they want to play in SL, when it was always clear that the ICC was not going to entertain any requests from them.

As for Test cricket, my opinion is that there are too many teams with Test status. Except for the few top teams, the rest are not competitive at all and many matches are boringly one-sided. There is not a lot of interest in watching one-sided games that are decided within the first couple of days. If cricket is to grow, it would have to be in the shorter formats, where the weaker teams still have a shot.

In any case, the BCCI is making a lot of money from the IPL, which is solely under their control. They may pay lip service to growing cricket internationally, but they know the money is mostly going to be coming from the big 3, and maybe SA and NZ and for them that is what matters at the end of the day because for them cricket is more of a business and profession than a sport. Competitive cricket stopped being a gentleman's game long ago.

The question of leverage arises from power drunk administration, so fine India does have huge clout from revenue but that should not dictate proper administration of the sport. Otherwise let's just have it openly that cricket is India's sport.

This is not an isolated out of the blue case, India has been applying its leverage for years, but somehow the concept of dignified administration on sporting principles is lost

Test cricket was not always like this, again the direction has been influenced by India and commercial considerations.

There was a period where Sri Lanka could pop up and have a dominating period, the West Indies of course, Pakistan had their moments, South Africa were always knocking on the door, as of now, these teams are effectively precluded because commercial decisions do not favor a competitive sport.


If all we will ever hear endlessly is India revenue India revenue India revenue, this is not sport, since when the balance sheet become the most important talking point.

Let me say again, this authoritarian trump like administration has not been the historical way to administrate a sport like cricket

 

[Master Chief]

Here we are taking about Pakistan ..the very same country which nominated Trump for Noble peace prize, the very same country which joined Donald Trump's board along with Israel to help them occupy Gaza, build Trump's resorts and disarm Hamas, will take a principled stand for another country, especially if that stand is directly harming its own interest...that's funny!

Pakistanis love sucking at teets of power be that Americans or be that Chinese, never do anything for anyone until it's directly benefiting them.

I wonder, if Pakistan and India's relations were not adversarial, would Pakistan also be sucking up to India ?

Name one time in history, Pakistan has every taken a principled stand for any country over its own interests?

"Name one time in history, Pakistan has every (sic) taken a principled stand for any country over its own interests?"

It warrants restating here, for the benefit of the eastern qom and its persistently gesticulating and ululating representatives on this very thread, that the very EXISTENCE of Pakistan is a position of principle for the entire subcontinent's non-hindu population, that too a principle of the highest order.

The sacrifices borne by our founding fathers and our people to birth and sustain this nation are self evident.

By way of Pakistan's existence, we demonstrate daily that non-hindus have as much place in the subcontinent as hindus, and that the HISTORICAL LEGACY of non-hindus is not to be trifled with or casually smashed to pieces by saffron clad lunatics.

Again, this existence is not the "cheapest option" or the "path of least resistance" that we have concsiously and conscientiously chosen here. It would have been far simpler in the short term to acquiesce to Nehruvian fantasies, but a stand was taken on the basis of PRINCIPLE, whatever the ramifications may be. We shall continue to sustain and protect that principle, that ideology, until the bitterest of ends.

I put it to you that Indians prefer to conveniently forget this underlying truth because it frightens each and every one of them that their smaller, less populous, poorer neighbour can remain so steadfast and defiant. No matter - we shall keep reminding you.

 

[Master Chief]

You seem to be frozen in time. India vs Pakistan used to be a marquee fixture when Pakistan had legends or greats like Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Wasim Akram, Inzi and Shoaib Akhtar. These players had fan following in India for their on and off field exploits and even the relationship between the two countries was at its nadir, the BCCI would find ways to play Pakistan outside of the World Cups in the Middle East or North America. Now, Pakistan has a second tier team and cricket is dominated by the Big 3.

Sure, the once in a blue moon India Pakistan games in the ICC tournaments still generate public interest in India, but that is mostly for a one-off "mauka mauka" tomfoolery by advertisers and the media. As far as bilateral cricket is concerned, it is the series between the Big 3 that bring in the interest and moolah.

Respectfully disagree. Standard of cricketing performance is of no relevance to the political and politicised nature of Indo-Pak games. These games draw Indian crowds and generate Indian earnings at multiple tiers because of their political ramifications, not because of the standard of cricket.

You can very easily prove me wrong by demonstrating a significant fall in relative/adjusted revenues for India of like-for-like matches in the present era compared with the era of Wasim, Waqar etc. I am happy to be proved wrong if you can furnish the data.

 

[sphinxpasha]

ICC is run on Indian money

 

[r3alist]

A confirming view that cricket has been a mess for ages, political mess

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