Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

VCheng said:
All involved parties will decide for themselves what they wish to do, and how to respond to what the other parties do. With such sovereign choices come the responsibilities of all the consequences for all parties as well.
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Yes, as always.

This is dependent on the USA starting with an illegal act of war, and all consequences and decisions will follow from that first act, as always.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Yes, as always.

This is dependent on the USA starting with an illegal act of war, and all consequences and decisions will follow from that first act, as always.
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Wait and see, shall we?
 
kobra said:
Time has run out for that.. Preparations for Attack are complete, US can initiate the strikes any moment.
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zionist fake news, 9 days ago Reuters said that trump would attack iran in 24 hours...

Note: # Psychological/Military Objective of Threats
In hybrid warfare, repeating "invasion coming", "govt will fall", "lost control" is psychological destabilization (synergistic effect).
 
Ali_Baba said:
If someone having an opinion, view on an open military discussion forum bothers you, then maybe a new hobby is required?
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LOL. I am not bothered at all. Opine as you wish. I will remain patient.

Usually attacks come on the darkest nights well away from full moons. For example.
 
kastor ville said:
Yes...the tech for seeing through walls is not a secret...low emissions microwave device....perhaps a game changer in city battles but still rudimentary and needs to be very close to work...as far as sound wave weaponry...I know they were testing something like it, but i didn't hear it was operational. Again it has its limitation...not sure it can be useful if they enemy knows you're there...you essentially need a clear line and a big dish with power source... I'll be very surprised if it can work through concrete. All of these things are useful in hostage and rescue operations, but have limited use in an open war.
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Iran can counter that with its AI powered Kowsars Block IV as well as Quantum North Korean MiG-23BN with Pyongyang IV V.2 Max Pro+ ECM pod to counter F-22s escorting B-2 bombers.

Iran can counter-attack with its own bombers, 24 AI powered Il-28 will do the job to level US bases in PGCC.

And I'm not even mentioning F-14AM+ Block VI Pro Max+ and Sofreh Mahi V.3.0 with Quantum afterburners and Fakour-105VM hypersonic BVR with quantum sensors with its 670km range that makes US BVRs look like children's toys.
 
I don't want us in here to slip into a bubble... And ignore the opposite case or outcome. I understand we're mostly on the same page. But in this case, the tweet below seems very plausible... It seems like the most likely scenario.

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tsunset said:
Iran can counter that with its AI powered Kowsars Block IV as well as Quantum North Korean MiG-23BN with Pyongyang IV V.2 Max Pro+ ECM pod to counter F-22s escorting B-2 bombers.

Iran can counter-attack with its own bombers, 24 AI powered Il-28 will do the job to level US bases in PGCC.

And I'm not even mentioning F-14AM+ Block VI Pro Max+ and Sofreh Mahi V.3.0 with Quantum afterburners and Fakour-105VM hypersonic BVR with quantum sensors with its 670km range that makes US BVRs look like children's toys.
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All of the above makes Iran a truly formidable adversary for sure. USA must not be too ambitious or take Iran lightly, if it indeed decides to do something foolish.
 
Ali_Baba said:
If anything was to happen tonight, it would be cruise missiles and a B2 strike after close of trading.

If not this weekend, then much larger package for next week, etc.
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B2 strikes are unlikely, they're slow...and used for heavy precision strike, I think this is just going to be for show...so it's probably tomahawk city.
 
Poke the bear , and bear normally wins

1- Greenland conquering ambition , has to do with stopping missiles form Russia to reach USA , (Minerals and other stuff is also there)

  • Russia already has missiles which don't follow conventional route so the moves are futile, won't work
  • Russia already has demonstrated Orshinik are unstoppable

2- Attack on Venezuela/Iran is to not allow China access to oil , similar to how Japan was denied oil supply by Navy Embargo (Start of world war 2)


The delegation from USA who went to Russia were there to negotiate a "Give Some , and Get some" deal with Russia to let Iran be on their own and in return some concession can be made for Russia. This is actually a false promise offering just to calm down Russia Temporarily

Classic attempt of Divide and conquer
  • Real Target is weaken Chinese Economyby reduction of oil supply
    • Oil shortages may turn into riots in China etc
  • Reduce , efficiency of Russian ICBM , in case Nukes are used on Russia (By Ukraine or proxy) , Russians can't retaliate
  • Some Tactical moves on India , to force it to not use Russian oil


The Peace board of Palestine , drama was/is orchestrated , to isolate
Turkey/Pakistan/Azerbaijan out of equation,
remain quiet and you will be spared
(You will be like the Good Tribes of America who did peace treaty, we all know what happened to these tribes now in USA 0.01% left , none of their signatures or treaties mattered)

This is old play book from American history , often used when you are surrounded by different tribes that don't really like you so you play divide and conquer

Any Tribe that signs these treaties they also same fate as any other tribe which got destroyed before treaty was signed



USA is currently active on WWIII plan , of controlling oil routes
 
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hopefully Iranian counterintelligence has already infiltrated this group
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a historic highly confidential project for a G7 country to counter iranian financial networks and yet at the same time she is bootstrapping for cash from angel investors. she is a total clown
 
Well they won't move their South China fleet to Middle east for just high fiving

They clearly feel bit confident after Venezuela strikes and trying to do something daring

[Don't qoute me on this, saw it on social media]
I did recall seeing unloading of a presidential Helicopter to one of Middle east airports, perhaps for Victory parade (Now I might be wrong in my assumption but it was same one that Trump uses in USA ) , it was on social media no one noticed the helicopter was same one in which President travels in USA. People were discussing other matters on that social forum. It was unloaded from one of the fat transport planes

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At home Trump faces the Epstine related allegations

Civil war like situation in Democratic states

MAGA crowd is angry why is President starting new wars? for Israel

Local disturbances about his leadership and way of government

So he has figured out to go out guns blazing , try to rally up support because if he wants to survive Mid Term election he needs something big

This act of Gun Blazing might become his biggest error just like how Hitler was over confident with his blitzkrieg





I think his plan is do something big then ride his helicopter and land in Iran, I mean he is 79 something like that so he wants to do something big
 
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