Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Yasser76]

Thanks for the correction My knowledge of English literature is poor

No worries, more people watched Independence Day then read Dylan Thomas! He is very niche!

 

[Baibers_1260]

No worries, more people watched Independence Day then read Dylan Thomas! He is very niche!

On a separate note, Have you noticed the resounding silence of our resident Rashtra Bhakt ( or Andh Bhakt ) Indian members over the exchange related to the post below. It seems they don't want us to know that we expect a preemptive strike. Building a sense of complacency in the enemy is a good strategy,

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https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...ews-updates-and-discussion.21640/post-1113249

 

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[Yasser76]

On a separate note, Have you noticed the resounding silence of our resident Rashtra Bhakt ( or Andh Bhakt ) Indian members over the exchange related to the post below. It seems they don't want us to know that we expect a preemptive strike. Building a sense of complacency in the enemy is a good strategy,

Post in thread 'Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion'
https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...ews-updates-and-discussion.21640/post-1113249

Nothing surprises me with those retards anymore.

2019 - Modi - "Things would have been different if we had Rafale".

That is the only quote you need when they make more threats.

Indians have aspirations of military success, Pakistan has achievements

 

[Master Chief]

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Lol. Did you see the ad that popped up in the India news bulletin?

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"STUDY IN UK WITHOUT IELTS"

These h1b scammers do not miss an opportunity.

 

[ghazi52]

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[Baibers_1260]

Fixing for the next round is applicable to both and India is in a better position to do that. Apart from BVR edge, India has most other things that went good for them. Strong AD and our precision strike capability can’t be replicated so fast. The main reason for this is Pakistan’s precarious fiscal condition.

Pakistan was in a precarious fiscal condition in 2019 also and has been since.. With acquisition of S-400s and Rafales was the "next round " in 2025 up to the expectations ?

I do disagree with this concept of limited punitive strike to give a strong signal. Pakistan is not a minnow to be cowed down by such a strike. IF (if), India really thought it necessary then it has to take the hard decision of bigger military action. The previous one in 2019 did good for 6 years and wasn’t good enough.

So apart from from "limited punitive strikes" under the new normal what is India's solution for a permanent fix to the "problem " ? Now that India has tested and demonstrated its ability to strike at core Pakistani military assets, what prevents India from taking a bigger "military action " right now at this very moment.? With a 7:1 superiority why is there an inordinate delay in further action against a bankrupt militarily inferior failed state ?

Let’s also look at what Munir gained in all this. Before May 25, Munir was most reviled and hated person on this forum. Not even one person was standing in his support. Look at where he is now. One extra star, FM for life, CDF and complete control of Pakistan.

How does the hatred or love for Munir factor in India's military doctrine or strategy? With India's deep penetration and strike capabilities Munir can be taken out far more easily than the roof of a hangar on Nur Khan Air Base,

Who played dirty is only a speculation but when one looks at the outcome, it appears to be very obvious. Let me repeat, it is just a speculation and I have no intent to argue further on this point as it would turn into - my word against your’s.

Well according to you India never plays "dirty " so what's your point?

My point still remains - Munir gained a lot over what I perceive to be not a great deployment of military power. And also that -Had Pakistan accepted a ceasefire on 7th, then that would have been huge narrative for Pakistan, while zero for India. But as they say hindsight is always 20/20.

Let's extrapolate your "Hindsight 20/20 "
On May 10th 2025, had India rejected Pakistan's "begging " for a ceasefire and continued with the campaign to pulverize Pakistani airbases, activate its carrier based naval task force blockade, pound and capture Karachi, and strike Lahore with a massive armored thrust, captured Pakistan Azaad Kashmir, arrested Asim Munir and changed the "geography and history of Pakistan", then that would have been a huge narrative for India and zero for Pakistan.
The Vishwaguru would have been hailed as the greatest ruler who reconstituted the Aryavarta since Chandragupta Maurya's giant Magadha Empire . There would have applause and adulation in the Indian Parliament by the Opposition instead of screaming and waiving of pictures of downed fighter jet debris .
The curious point is why Pakistan's "begging " was accepted when the gains from continuing the war were obvious.
In fact this course of action was deplored by noted defence analyst Major General G.D. Bakshi in his famous speech.

Your thoughts?

 

[maxpane]

did indian govt has any info about attack? its almost a year but no info sharing about planning and the culprits who involved in it . am talking about kashmir attack

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pakistan was in a precarious fiscal condition in 2019 also and has been since.. With acquisition of S-400s and Rafales was the "next round " in 2025 up to the expectations ?

So apart from from "limited punitive strikes" under the new normal what is India's solution for a permanent fix to the "problem " ? Now that India has tested and demonstrated its ability to strike at core Pakistani military assets, what prevents India from taking a bigger "military action " right now at this very moment.? With a 7:1 superiority why is there an inordinate delay in further action against a bankrupt militarily inferior failed state ?

How does the hatred or love for Munir factor in India's military doctrine or strategy? With India's deep penetration and strike capabilities Munir can be taken out far more easily than the roof of a hangar on Nur Khan Air Base,

Well according to you India never plays "dirty " so what's your point?

Let's extrapolate your "Hindsight 20/20 "
On May 10th 2025, had India rejected Pakistan's "begging " for a ceasefire and continued with the campaign to pulverize Pakistani airbases, activate its carrier based naval task force blockade, pound and capture Karachi, and strike Lahore with a massive armored thrust, captured Pakistan Azaad Kashmir, arrested Asim Munir and changed the "geography and history of Pakistan", then that would have been a huge narrative for India and zero for Pakistan.
The Vishwaguru would have been hailed as the greatest ruler who reconstituted the Aryavarta since Chandragupta Maurya's giant Magadha Empire . There would have applause and adulation in the Indian Parliament by the Opposition instead of screaming and waiving of pictures of downed fighter jet debris .
The curious point is why Pakistan's "begging " was accepted when the gains from continuing the war were obvious.
In fact this course of action was deplored by noted defence analyst Major General G.D. Bakshi in his famous speech.

Your thoughts?

Sure india has the capability to take out munir. So much so that Pakistan was able to take out at least 8 indian french-made advanced rafale fighter jets...........

 

[Baibers_1260]

Sure india has the capability to take out munir. So much so that Pakistan was able to take out at least 8 indian french-made advanced rafale fighter jets...........

When you extend the "logic" of these Indian "intellectuals" they will stay mum . Their tactics is to take on the youngest and most inexperienced PDF members rather than lock horns with those that can match them word for word. I and you and others are on the ignore list of the "warriors from Keshav Kunj ".

 

[HAIDER]

Khafi from Defence dot pk? Did he pass away?

rumors , KIA in Yemen..

 

[Toxic]

rumors , KIA in Yemen..

Which side was he fighting for?

 

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Hi, the Indian population has unfortunately bought this narrative from their media. Moreover, they cannot fathom that their airplanes were shot down. I have mentioned before in other posts, some of my brother's colleagues have asked him how relatives back home are coping with radiation leakage for the Indian strike at Margala Hills... LOL!

Getting back on topic, if any Erieye, or F-16 had been downed in the May conflict it would have been all over the news. Literally, how can someone hide an AWACS being shot down? Like seriously? Do you know how much wreckage would be strewn all over the place? Even if it burned in a hanger, word would get out.

Lastly, how could you cover up all the supposed number of F16s shot down? It would be impossible.

 

[Jango007]

rumors , KIA in Yemen..

He was buried in Jannat ul Baqi .