Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Meengla said:
But even in case of Pakistan and India, they fired missiles against each other in May 2025 despite the so-called 'nuclear deterrence'. So what of Iran vs the American might??
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I think between india-Pakistan, the nuclear option is still deterrence against WMD or for battle of survival. Since both countries are near peer at conventional level, so they fight at conventional level and keep nukes aside. If one side is going down, then it will use nuclear weapons atleast at tactical level.

Iran's nuclear weapons would be a deterrence as US most valuable item is in the region i.e Israel. Secondly, even against "Armada" a tactical nuke tipped missile detonated several kms away from the CSG can disable the CSG effectiveness by burning their sensors, radars, disabling electronics & aircrafts onboard. But again that would be very last option as retaliatory strike would not be a tactical nuke but a strategic one, taking a whole city with it. Overall i think given the risks & cost of war involved it would have served as a deterrence. Just like it's serving for the North Koreans.
 
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Uncompromising rhetoric
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Against this backdrop, the nature of any US strike becomes critical.

A limited attack may allow Washington to claim military success while avoiding immediate regional war, but it could also provide Iranian authorities with a pretext for another round of internal repression.

Such a scenario risks fresh crackdowns, mass arrests and a new wave of harsh sentences, including death penalties, for protesters already in detention.

At the other extreme, a broader US campaign that significantly weakens or cripples the Iranian state could push the country towards the brink of chaos.

The sudden collapse of central authority in a country of more than 90 million people would be unlikely to produce a clean or rapid transition. Instead, it could trigger prolonged instability, factional violence, and spillover effects across the region, with consequences that may take years to contain.

These risks help explain the increasingly uncompromising rhetoric from Tehran.

Senior commanders in both the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and the regular armed forces, along with senior political officials, have warned that any US attack-regardless of scale-would be treated as an act of war.

Such declarations have unsettled Iran's neighbours, particularly Gulf states hosting US forces. A rapid Iranian response would place those countries - and Israel - at immediate risk, regardless of their direct involvement, and raises the prospect of a conflict spreading far beyond Iran and the United States.

Washington, too, faces constraints. Trump has repeatedly warned Iranian authorities against using violence against protesters and, at the height of the unrest, told Iranians that "help is coming". Those remarks were widely circulated inside Iran and raised expectations among protesters.
 
kastor ville said:
If the de-dollarization continues, they will be in deep shit. Think about it, the richest country in history of this planet is 38 trillion dollars in debt....the annual GDP of the US is roughly 6 trillion. They amount of interest accumulating every year is 1 trillion dollars.
Also, if you know your history when the Roman empire started to die, it was keeping itself alive for the last few decades by war and conquering. Same shit here, Venezuela, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Greenland....etc.
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GDP of the US is $31 trillion not $6 trillion

their debt is $38 trillion and in 2025 the cost of servicing the interest alone reached $1.2 trillion per year

if their currency continues to lose value, the interest cost will increase a lot each year

the US budget deficit this year is expected to be $2 trillion. so they are adding $2 trillion to the debt + $1.2 trillion in interest payments per year.

it's not very sustainable.
 
There can be no "war" in the classic sense of the word. We will see more air strikes. Iran has absorbed these in the past and will absorb them again. Already Iranians are talking to the entire neighbourhood, possibly even signalling to places like Qatar, UAE and Bahrain what strikes to expect on US bases on their soil.

US will strike, not achieve much and Iran will strike back and probably not achieve much. Both sides will look strong to their population.

Unless you send a lot of boots on the ground you cannot defeat Iran. Even that will be no guarantor of success.

What is going on is partly show and partly negotiation tactics
 
Immortals said:
Guess those 200 missiles at fortified targets weren’t a mistake assuming this isn’t AI photos. @Persian Gulf @Emirzad

Question is why did they seemingly abandon that strategy to go for soft targets for PR shock value? Is due to cadence drop from 200 down to 50 missiles down to 20 missile salvos? Because Israel retaliated against Iranian airforce targets?

If they would have been able to replicate this success across the bases at the very least they would have destroyed dozens of aircraft that were refueling and reloading and brought the sortie count down. Obviously no one is expecting complete elimination of sorties or airbases.
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most of these images are old or from Iran
 
Falcon26 said:
What weapons Iran could have used last summer that it didn’t? What other assets?

Don’t you think it’s missile production infrastructure has been mostly destroyed?
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Iran didn't use many weapons last time

Khorramshahr
Qasem Basir
SRBMs with < 20m CEP
anti-ship missiles

etc
 
Since America is such a belligerent country now under Trump, I hope US forces suffer heavy casualties in an unjustified war against Iran. Trump has totally overstepped his bounds here making unprovoked threats on Iran.

I'll be praying for IRGC's victory in battle, so good luck and happy hunting!
 
Yasser76 said:
Unless you send a lot of boots on the ground you cannot defeat Iran.
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There is no need for boots on the ground. Sustained economic pressure will do the job very effectively.
 
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This guy is meant to be more sympathetic to the Western side, as much as that means in Iran, and he is saying this so that is showing solidarity
 
VCheng said:
There is no need for boots on the ground. Sustained economic pressure will do the job very effectively.
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Not really. Iran has survived that for decades now. Economic tools all used up. Russia and China in no mood to go along. So explain what further economic pressure you can impose on a country already sanctioned up to the hilt?
 
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