Pakistan Missiles - Updates, News & Discussion

[ThoroughPro]

Even if Pakistan manages to strike back with nukes, it doesn't have second strike capability, while india does with its nuclear submarines.

Correction: Pakistan does not have a "declared" second strike capability.

 

[NA71]

 

[hasssanali8998]

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any reputable source ??
we already established that these clouds can be formed by any rocket/missile launched at the right time and conditions

 

[NA71]

any reputable source ??
we already established that these clouds can be formed by any rocket/missile launched at the right time and conditions

Wait & see ...

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Wait & see ...

Bhai main yaqeen kar b laita but jab maine ye parha kay under a transfer of technology tau confirm ho gaya its a fake news

 

[NA71]

Bhai main yaqeen kar b laita but jab maine ye parha kay under a transfer of technology tau confirm ho gaya its a fake news

Jab hi tu I posted "Wait & see....." ....actually thread was silent since last couple of days ...I tried to warm it up.....it will be a busy thread in 2026....InshaAllah

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Jab hi tu I posted "Wait & see....." ....actually thread was silent since last couple of days ...I tried to warm it up.....it will be a busy thread in 2026....InshaAllah

Allah karay.. jab b ye thread highlight hota main iss umeed say aata kay ab tau pakka koyi HGV ki pakki news hath aayegi

 

[NA71]

Allah karay.. jab b ye thread highlight hota main iss umeed say aata kay ab tau pakka koyi HGV ki pakki news hath aayegi

Ho gi ho gi news definitely.....Future lies in HGV....brahmos 2 will be answered by HGVs

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Ho gi ho gi news definitely.....Future lies in HGV....brahmos 2 will be answered by HGVs

Lets wait and see

 

[air marshal]

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[Malik]

Pakistan’s Global Industrial & Defence Solutions (GIDS) has revealed SMASH, a hypersonic anti-ship and land attack ballistic missile now ready for export.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Pakistan’s Global Industrial & Defence Solutions (GIDS) has revealed SMASH, a hypersonic anti-ship and land attack ballistic missile now ready for export.
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Sea based F2

 

[Falcon26]

Pakistan’s Global Industrial & Defence Solutions (GIDS) has revealed SMASH, a hypersonic anti-ship and land attack ballistic missile now ready for export.
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This is a marketing gimmick. SMASH is a generic anti ship ballistic missile and not a hypersonic.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

Since when Mach 2.0+ qualified as being hypersonic?Very poor marketing strategy by GIDS. Wasn't expecting this from them.

 

[JamD]

Wrong thread:

That's a loaded statement. It depends on:
1. The phase
2. The size/range

For example an SRBM might hit Mach 5 at some point but be terminally only Mach 1.5.
An ICBM will hit Mach 20 at some point but terminally be Mach 8.

So you need a trajectory simulation to really answer that question. Lucky for us, I did do that (with a LOT of assumptions so take this with a grain of salt but there is some crazy coincidental agreement with test footage so maybe the assumptions aren't too far off). I got a trajectory with a 3.4 terminal Mach. This could either be GIDS playing it fast and loose with "hypersonic" by actually referring to speed during flight and not terminal, or my assumptions being wrong and it has terminal hypersonic speed, or they're straight up lying.

So I did this a while back when had dimensions and specifications from the Bunyan-al-Marsoos event. Take this with a pinch of salt - I used a ballistic simulator that I made with all the numbers I could get and then assumed some ballistic coefficient and burn time numbers that agreed with tests that we saw. I am basically assuming F2=SMASH. I have faith in this but you don't have to.


Ok so pure ballistic launches - no maneuvering. I swept through various launch angles. Three vertical red lines where first line corresponds to impact mach of 1.3 - like in the video we saw (first or second test) and the remaining two are 400 km range solutions both of which are >2 impact Mach
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Also measured the impact angle on the F2 test...42 deg
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Notice the impact angle on my plot 38 deg maybe? for the first 1.3 Mach impact
so very likely they tested F2 at 250 km range, but it validates all of the aero and controls.
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It is capable of M>2 at two trajectories:
274 seconds. The second vertical line in the previous plot. Depressed trajectory I guess. Doesn't even go to space (above 100 km)
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448 seconds. The third vertical line in the previous plot. Lofted trajectory. Goes to space. Comes back at a steeper angle and higher speed
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The main point of all this is to show that you can do this test:
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and this will essentially verify all of your numbers for you. Now you know with some certainty you can use this missile on the 400km trajectories. Obviously, you wouldn't start with the 400km tests because its difficult to get targeting and set up exclusion zones. But you can verify your model, which is what is done.