Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hasssanali8998]

Probably a lot more if you account for increased import costs

also it was an f35 thta shot it down

 

[mangekyo]

also it was an f35 thta shot it down

I’m talking about the drone. It costs a lot more to produce now. And Iran is very short on dollars

 

[Garcia Sea]

Iran shot down just one drone that violated its airspace, yet the U.S. threatened to unleash countless missiles. Now Iran shows no reaction even after an expensive drone is shot down over international waters.
The U.S. is getting cocky, escalating because it believes Iran will never retaliate.
It's regrettable they showed no reaction even after losing an expensive MALE, but this likely brought war closer. The U.S. has further solidified its core belief that Iran will accept bombing without resistance.
Flying the Shahed 129 was truly foolish. If they must fly drones, they should use countless cheap suicide drones.
And no reaction is the worst possible response. It openly reveals they lack the courage to fight.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Immortals]

Honestly I felt he was over the top fake on the extreme “right” and than after he disappeared another guy popped up with the same style of writing as him over the top fake extreme “left” that user wasn’t on for very long.

Whoever he was he had a severe mental illness. No one sits and write pages of propaganda to 20 random people in an obscure forum.

His alternate ego account was either another user making an alt account to mock him or it was indeed himself trying to clean up his extremist viewpoints that got him in trouble to begin with.

 

[Wudangmaster2]

Whoever he was he had a severe mental illness. No one sits and write pages of propaganda to 20 random people in an obscure forum.

His alternate ego account was either another user making an alt account to mock him or it was indeed himself trying to clean up his extremist viewpoints that got him in trouble to begin with.

I'm leaning toward being a parody or satire account by someone else; I remember being much amused by some of that alter ego's posts.

 

[ety]

What about Pakistan?

Currently, North Korea is the only formal ally of China that it is bound by treaty to defend if invaded by say US, I can't imagine that China will let US army occupy NK and critically threaten China's security. Pakistan and Russia are the only two unspoken informal allies of China, their securities are also concerns for China's national security, so if they are invaded like say Russia invaded by NATO or Pakistan invaded by India, Chinese military might get involved to help them fight too, I can't imagine that China including military will just stand idly by. As for Vietnam, I wouldn't say today it's critical for China's national security but very important so Chinese military intervention is not very likely just in case. And as for all other countries bordering China, it may view they also concern China's security to varying degrees, and I would imagine China would intervene in some ways if they are invaded. All the countries in the far away places of the world basically don't affect China's security and therefore likely non-interventions.

 

[Immortals]

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Iran cannot make up its mind. Doesn’t look good changing venues last second and now negotiating if other FMs are allowed. Who is running the ship in Tehran?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

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there will be no deal

neither party has budged even a little bit on their original positions

war is inevitable

Perhaps not...
I must say... things seem to have gone awry and new factors have surfaced. The Chinese and Russians showed up right on time for the exercises...

Some anti ship stuff makes area denial very plausible and necessitates CSGs to keep a distance or face the potential for catastrophic losses.
It may yet be averted...

Only need to keep the guard up...

 

[Eşbah]

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Iran cannot make up its mind. Doesn’t look good changing venues last second and now negotiating if other FMs are allowed. Who is running the ship in Tehran?

Just checked some Turkish sources. It might not matter to the average Iranian but this last minute move left many decision-makers in Ankara taken aback.

I don't think this was a smart move.

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However, it seems like there's also an internal power struggle going on in Iran right now. This conflict is not limited to the general populace but seems to extend into the upper circles of the power structure withinthe system as well.

 

[SolarWarden]

This is all theater by Orangeman who is buying time for the forces he needs to carry out the massive decapitation strike. It probably makes Iran leadership hesitate to maybe even preempt a strike of their own if talks are still on the table.

 

[hasn2009]

Just checked some Turkish sources. It might not matter to the average Iranian but this last minute move left many decision-makers in Ankara taken aback.

I don't think this was a smart move.

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However, it seems like there's also an internal power struggle going on in Iran right now. This conflict is not limited to the general populace but seems to extend into the upper circles of the power structure withinthe system as well.

I don't see anything wrong with it, Iran would be a fool to trust Turkey in this.

 

[hussain0216]

This is all theater by Orangeman who is buying time for the forces he needs to carry out the massive decapitation strike. It probably makes Iran leadership hesitate to maybe even preempt a strike of their own if talks are still on the table.

Preemptive strike is stupid

Let the U.S start the war and take responsibility for any and all fallout

 

[hasn2009]

Preemptive strike is stupid

Let the U.S start the war and take responsibility for any and all fallout

Agreed, Iran can only prepare. They need to harden their defenses, secure their leadership and infrastructure and stay vigilent, and get rid of the spies and sabotage element. And unleash hell on first enemy incursion.