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[MMM-E]

Tell that to your compatriot who talks about the S-400 as if it's a monolith. Not me.

You are talking about RAFALE and F-16V since 2021
Why are you jumping when I am talking about the S400 ?

While I just showed you S-400 got smashed numerous times in Ukraine

and 4 RAFALEs got smashed by Pakistani Air Force

So the RAFALE is ineffective after all ?

 

[Foinikas]

You are talking about RAFALE and F-16V since 2021
Why are you jumping when I am talking about the S400 ?



and 4 RAFALEs got smashed by Pakistani Air Force

So the RAFALE is ineffective after all ?

I didn't claim either one is an absolute indestructible superweapon the way you do about everything you have in your arsenal. That's a big difference. The problem with your style of posting,is that it's always very aggressive and you don't leave space for friendly discussion. You talk like you demand the other person to accept what you say,as an absolute truth and indesputable fact.

 

[MMM-E]

I didn't claim either one is an absolute indestructible superweapon the way you do about everything you have in your arsenal. That's a big difference. The problem with your style of posting,is that it's always very aggressive and you don't leave space for friendly discussion. You talk like you demand the other person to accept what you say,as an absolute truth and indesputable fact.

Your problem is that, just like Dendias and Mitsotakis, you live in your own fantasy world and constantly spread anti-Turkish propaganda everywhere

I never said that S400 is a superweapon
I said that S400 has capability to block AWACS over the Aegean .. Thanks to 380 km 40N6E Missile

and Greece doesnt have this capability with 160 km PATRIOT AD System

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You talk like you demand the other person to accept what you say,as an absolute truth and indesputable fact.

Denying the truth is the biggest mistake you're making.

I am giving you technical information, why are you still spouting nonsense ? and you're implying things I didn't say

I am saying again .. S400 has a big advantage to block AWACS

S400 : 380 km
PATRIOT : 160 km
SAMP-T : 120 km

 

[MMM-E]

Bandırma/Balıkesir

The "Multi-Aircraft Attack Training," supported by electronic warfare, was successfully conducted with the participation of the 161st and 162nd Jet Squadron Commands, which are affiliated with our 6th Main Jet Base Command.


Upon completing their mission, our pilots respectfully saluted our ancestors, who inscribed the words "Çanakkale is impenetrable!" in golden letters in history, in this sacred land where every inch of soil breathes heroism

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Full of land attack capability ( 230 F-16s )
LANTIRN and ASELPOD for night flight/attack capability ( 230 F-16s )
SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite ( 60 F-16Cs )


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The first in the World in the modern jet age (post-1990s)

The Turkish Air Force's single-wave sortie (attack) of 72 F-16 Fighter Jets during Operation Olive Branch in 2018 is unprecedented. This event is still considered the largest single-wave fighter/bomber attack in the modern jet age (post-1990s) and is described as a "world first".

The Turkish Air Force's single-wave attack of 72 F-16s in that operation remains a unique example of coordination, planning, and execution in modern jet aviation.


72 F-16s destroyed 104 of 108 targets in one sortie


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We lost 72 martyrs in Operation Euphrates Shield. The 72 Aircraft that took off on the first day of Operation Olive Branch, which was launched on January 20, 2018, were, in a sense, a tribute to the 72 soldiers who were martyred in Operation Euphrates Shield.

 

[BonPlan]

Invincible Turkish superweapons...nobody has a chance.

Against Israel air force they have no chance. for exemple.

 

[BonPlan]

36 S400 Air Defense Launchers with 144-192 Missiles vs 24 RAFALEs

Where is Greek air superiority ? with only 24 RAFALEs ?

Also Türkiye has added its 5th SIPER air defense Battery to its inventory.
and ASELSAN will deliver over 100 Air Defense Systems this year

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The era of freely flying in the Aegean like in the 1990s - 2000s is over
Turkiye had nothing in 1990s-2000s-2010s but today is different

If Türkiye deploys these S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems in Izmir, Balıkesir, Canakkale, and Muğla, RAFALE Jets will become targets when the moment they cross the 25th meridian in the Aegean
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40N6E Missile = speed of mach 3,5 and range of 380 km ( against AWACS )
48N6E3 Missile = speed of mach 5,9 and range of 240 km ( against RAFALEs )
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S400 ? for how many time? If you want F-35 uncle Donald asked you to find a solution.

 

[hyperman]

Against Israel air force they have no chance. for exemple.

lol, ok bro.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Against Israel air force they have no chance. for exemple.

So, Rakesh you are here on the Turkish thread, spreading your nonsense too ?

 

[MMM-E]

The FUTURE is Ours



230 F-16 OZGUR-2 and 44 Eurofighters
40 F-16V ( on agenda )

STEEL DOME Air Defense Umbrella ( SIPER-1/2/3/4 ) to intercept all threats

4 Boeing E-7T AEWC
4 ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft

KAAN + ANKA-3 + KIZILELMA .... ( Domination shall we play a game )

 

[BonPlan]

The FUTURE is Ours



230 F-16 OZGUR-2 and 44 Eurofighters
40 F-16V ( on agenda )

STEEL DOME Air Defense Umbrella ( SIPER-1/2/3/4 ) to intercept all threats

4 Boeing E-7T AEWC
4 ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft

KAAN + ANKA-3 + KIZILELMA .... ( Domination shall we play a game )
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KAAN succeed in flying with undercarriage up and with some turns ?

 

[hyperman]

Coming from a US people tyou answer "LOL" is quite strange.
Israel is superiorly equiped and has far more training than anything else in the whole region.

You wrote "they have no chance", and in the content of future weapons system. So first and foremost lets acknowledge the goalpost move here.

Secondly, capability is a bit more complicated than just looking at an F-35 and deciding ok, "they have no chance", this is an asinine way to judge capability and capacity. Particularly when the battlefield hasn't even been defined it, like what some of thing does Turkey have "no chance" in exactly?

With regards to training, I'd like to point out the obviously, but Israel pilots used to come to Turkey for Training. How are you quantifying "more training"?

 

[MMM-E]

KAAN succeed in flying with undercarriage up and with some turns ?

Far better than your FCAS which is a dream until 2050

No FCAS before 2050, says Dassault CEO​

No FCAS before 2050, says Dassault CEO - AeroTime

Speaking at the Paris Air Forum on June 7, 2022, Éric Trappier, CEO of Dassault Aviation, gave an update on the advancement of the Future Combat Air System (FCAS) program. The “system of systems” built around a sixth-generation fighter jet, the Next Generation Fighter (NGF) was contracted by the...

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Go and worry about the French Air Force with only RAFALE which can not match with even stealth ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA in BVR combat

 

[Oublious]

KAAN succeed in flying with undercarriage up and with some turns ?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/08/04/asia-pacific/pakistan-india-fighter-china/

lol

You should go think about yourself....

 

[MMM-E]

KIZILELMA will enter the inventory in the first quarter of 2026 and with fleets to be established within a few years, will be a game-changer in BVR combat against the 4,5th gen Fighters like F-15EX , F-16V , RAFALE , SU-35 , J-10C


Turkiye , China and USA are world leaders in this technology.

 

[Afif]

He is largely right in his assessment with regards to the capabilities of the S-400 system.

Some of you are mistakes that b/c an Air Defense System is Western, that its somehow better.

There are many things that the west builds that are better than Russia, but SAM Air Defense is one of Russia's specialties, their doctrine is centered around air defense via SAM systems, whereas the Western Air Defense is Air Force based and offensive minded not defensive minded.

The US for the most part never really developed Air Defense outside of times where they needed anti ballistic missile defense. B/c the US has had a luxury of having a seperation of 2 oceans from any peer adversary.

The Russians out of necessity invested tons into Ground based air defense.

Where the Russians do lack is Networked Warfare compared to combined arms the US does. But as standalone systems the Russian Air Defenses are are as good as any or better. The S-400 infact is a more capable System than the Patriot. In the range and layers it covers as well as the amount of specialized sensors involved in the system and the variance of interceptor missiles.

Just because Russians invested heavily in AD capabilities since WW2 out of their doctrinal neccessity doesn't make them better at making superior AD system.

Russian electronics are decades behind that of what west has. In fact they used to use lots of COTS electronics in their AD systems from Western civilian manufacturers. (Now being replaced by Chinese components.)

In Ukraine Russia Ukraine is the weaker party. The best striking system they have is ATACMs. On the other hand Russia has more capable deep strike capabilities. Both in terms of technology and volume. Kiznal, Iskander, P-800, etc and of course a big air force. Yet the destruction of S400s and S300s are greater in numbers than destruction of Patriots and SAMP/T or IRIS-T SLM in the battlefield just going by the visual evidences available.

France didn't supply Ukraine with SAMP/T NG yet. It was the older version. Neither did US supplied LTAMDS and IBCS. It was older variant of patriot batteries.

Russian despite having invested heavily in AD as their primary defense, couldn't develop hit to kill tactical interceptors like Western PAC-3 or Aster 30. They are yet to field an AESA MFR with S400. Just like Russians couldn't put APG-81 like radar on their fighter, they can't make GaN based next gen AESA like LTAMDS, GroundFire and EL/M2084 yet.

In fact, Aselsan developed SIPER with its GaN based AKREP-1000G and ALP-310 AESA systems has more advanced sensor architecture than that of S400.

I can bet Block 2 interceptor is also better than anything russians fields in the same range.

No AD is foolproof, yet second tier Western AD systems perform better than Russian ones in Ukraine given the volume and variety of sophisticated russian systems it faced compared to what Ukraine threw at Russian AD systems.