Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[maverick]

Because it will be total destruction on Iran. Attacking US military preemptively is something that Israel hard line love, just like those stupid 7 October Hamas attack

Attacking US military will give hard line US hawk the good reason and context to destroy Iran completely. US population will support that like 9 elevent 2001 event is used to invade Iraq.

ot it can be a false flag like gulf of tonkin which led to disaster humiliation of vietnam war.

 

[Mero]

What the US has consistently feared is that provoking Iran might lead to a blockade of the Strait of Hormuz or nuclear armament.
Iran abandonment of that option has eliminated the deterrent.
The US can now bomb Iran at will.
Consider this: if Iran were to openly withdraw from the NPT or blockade the Strait of Hormuz, the US options would be limited.
The tactic of launching a surprise attack to reduce Tehran to rubble and then unilaterally declare victory becomes meaningless.
The US would be forced to persuade Iran to rejoin the NPT or physically secure the Strait of Hormuz's safety, undertaking an operation a hundred times more difficult.
Khamenei is a rare fool.
No nuclear weapons, no Strait of Hormuz blockade.
This effectively grants Trump a license to bomb Iran whenever he pleases and declare victory whenever he chooses.

100% true.

This situation arose because Iran's leadership panicked and agreed to a ceasefire in just 12 days last June.
At that time, most direct attacks were carried out by the IDF, and attacks on oil infrastructure were also restrained.
Therefore, Iran was fully capable of enduring a prolonged conflict, and it presented an excellent opportunity to learn how to fight against Western air forces.
Yemen, having faced years of bombing by the Saudi military—far weaker than the USAF—has transformed into a nation far more resilient than Iran, enabling it to repel US attacks.
Iran, however, cowardly missed its only chance to build immunity by agreeing to a ceasefire. It now faces the worst-case scenario: relentless destruction of its homeland by massive US airstrikes.
This may sound cruel to the Iranian people, but if Iran has any chance of defending itself, it must absolutely refuse to agree to a ceasefire this time.
No matter the blows it suffers, it must never agree to a ceasefire at any halfway point.
Iraq, which surrendered in the Gulf War, subsequently saw 500,000 to 1 million people killed over the following decade or more, its territory fragmented and dismantled, and its oil fields seized.
If Iran does not wish to suffer the same fate, its leaders must make the ruthless decision to accept sacrifice. That is the reality of the international community: a lawless jungle.
If they lack that resolve, they should have surrendered unconditionally to the United States ten years ago.

In June 2025, the US was crying like a baby telling China to order the Iranians not to have 100-200 dollar oil. Trump was crying.

US asks China to stop Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz

Iran's Press TV had earlier reported that parliament had approved a plan to close the Strait.

www.bbc.com

China told Iran not to send the region into war, and Iran backed down. Both cowards, now things are much worse than in June 2025. Iran had the entire playing cards to defeat Trump in 2025. Iran now has to wait for first crippling strike by the US, in June it did not. It controlled the board.

After Iran, the Zionists will turn their sights onto Turkey.

The first stage is nearly complete:

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Turkey is the only smart large player left. Skeptical of Russia. Hates trump. Hates Netanyahu. Defends Ukraine. Defends Palestine.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

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[Mero]

In a post on his Truth Social platform on Monday, US President Donald Trump said: "EVERYONE, KEEP OIL PRICES DOWN. I'M WATCHING! YOU'RE PLAYING RIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF THE ENEMY. DON'T DO IT!"

That was trump in June 2025. You defeat trump with high oil prices, high gold prices as a sign of dollar weakness and high silver prices bet against the US financial system. China wants low oil prices, same as trump. China also wants low silver prices, same as trump. Does China also want low gold prices, same as trump? Does China want to hand America a Pax Americana? That is the way to make money, that is not the way to defeat trump.

It was easy in 2025 to defeat trump. 2026 got much more difficult. China waiting to make the next 50 cents does not realize their enemy has returned and you don't empower your enemy with victories over investors betting against the dollar empire, nor give trump victories over Venezuela, Iran, Peru, ...

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/17/americas/peru-president-jose-jeri-ousted-intl-latam

 

[Persian Gulf]

@Mero that's enough off topic spamming about masons from you for 7 days

 

[Persian Gulf]

Muwaffaq Salti AB Jordan, yesterday

18 x F-35A & 6 x EA-18G Growlers

the base is < 1000km from Iran's western provinces

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[kastor ville]

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Muwaffaq Salti AB Jordan, yesterday

18 x F-35A & 6 x EA-18G Growlers

the base is < 1000km from Iran's western provinces

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After the naval assets...this should be a priority target. As you said they need to have hidden TELs near the border to surprise them.

 

[mulj]

Overall deployed usaf is still lot weaker and less stronger in numbers then jewish air force in 12days war, so this game of deception in negotiation is still on. Numbers for war does not add up by american size, two weeks of operations is most what they can drain out from assembled forces and then what after Iran punched back and fired last shot?

 

[Pak-Warrior]

The 3 most important bases/ locations for second gulf war (US war on Iraq) were following:
- Kuwait
- Bahrain (Permanent US fifth fleet HQ, hosts major US warships permanently for control over middleeast)
- Qatar.

I bet these 3 locations will be used again especially Bahrain, the nerve center of US fleet in middle east.

Each of these 3 countries comprises of only one city each. Each of them hosts US military, it seems they were created to serve US interests only. Ideally these 3 should be part of KSA, same language, same religion, same culture. No point having a separate city as a country. But US will never let that happen. Otherwise how they would do divide and conquer. How they would have an excuse for bases in each. The rulers of these states even pays to protect their rule. They know if they don't then they are replaceable in seconds with their brother and cousin elevated as king.

 

[Persian Gulf]

The 3 most important bases/ locations for second gulf war (US war on Iraq) were following:
- Kuwait
- Bahrain (Permanent US fifth fleet HQ, hosts major US warships permanently for control over middleeast)
- Qatar.

I bet these 3 locations will be used again especially Bahrain, the nerve center of US fleet in middle east.

Each of these 3 countries comprises of only one city each. Each of them hosts US military, it seems they were created to serve US interests only. Ideally these 3 should be part of KSA, same language, same religion, same culture. No point having a separate city as a country. But US will never let that happen. Otherwise how they would do divide and conquer. How they would have an excuse for bases in each. The rulers of these states even pays to protect their rule. They know if they don't then they are replaceable in seconds with their brother and cousin elevated as king.

each of those already said they will not let the US use their territory to attack Iran

so I think the US will have to use Jordan and CSGs and long range bombers

at least until IRI is defanged, then those Arab states won't fear an Iranian response any more

 

[Reichsmarschall]

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[Pak-Warrior]

Overall deployed usaf is still lot weaker and less stronger in numbers then jewish air force in 12days war, so this game of deception in negotiation is still on. Numbers for war does not add up by american size, two weeks of operations is most what they can drain out from assembled forces and then what after Iran punched back and fired last shot?

Israel will join too ofcourse. So this looks lot more intense than 12 days war.

Two CSGs and regional assets willl be joined by the B2s, B1s which are not in the region. They can do long range missions. US would be hoping to gain air supremacy early, so they can bring B-52s.

Yes, Iran will keep standing even after strikes and americans perhaps know that. Americans & Israelis want to destroy Iran's ballistic missile program and would do some decapitation strikes on leadership hoping for regime collapse, which is not guaranteed and may not happen.

In the end, both would claim victory. US would say we destroyed their missile program (tbh, they will do a lot of damage to it). Iran would claim that they defeated aggressors and they are still standing that if regime stays intact.

 

[tsunset]

Israel will join too ofcourse. So this looks lot more intense than 12 days war.

Two CSGs and regional assets willl be joined by the B2s, B1s which are not in the region. They can do long range missions. US would be hoping to gain air supremacy early, so they can bring B-52s.

Yes, Iran will keep standing even after strikes and americans perhaps know that. Americans & Israelis want to destroy Iran's ballistic missile program and would do some decapitation strikes on leadership hoping for regime collapse, which is not guaranteed and may not happen.

In the end, both would claim victory. US would say we destroyed their missile program (tbh, they will do a lot of damage to it). Iran would claim that they defeated aggressors and they are still standing that if regime stays intact.

Iran needs to inflict offensive casualties to claim a victory

Sending missiles alone without hitting or killing anything will make Iran appear weak and deterrence will not be established

 

[Ali_Baba]

each of those already said they will not let the US use their territory to attack Iran

so I think the US will have to use Jordan and CSGs and long range bombers

at least until IRI is defanged, then those Arab states won't fear an Iranian response any more

They are playing fast and lose with "not allowing their terroririty" as we can see air refuellers, UAVs and EW equipment operating from these bases providing logistical support. Those elements will be used to attack Iran.

 

[Aryobarzan]

National Revolution of Iran on going ...40th day memorial in the small town of "najaf abad" .. I heared 80 of its population murdered by the Islamic Republic regime .. Yesterday 8000 came out to the memorial....you kill one you make 1000 more angry demanding revenge...that is how the calculus works for the dictatorship regimes.....expect a blood bath during and after US/Israel bombardment..it is unavoidable now.

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another memorial another town..Town of "marve dasht"..

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