Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[falcon34]

I think the initial number of 6-7 were correct, rest are just Trump being Trump.. he miss spoke something and rather than correcting himself he just goes with it, if you watch his speeches you can easily see its a habit of his.

Remember the words of IAF chief, let them count 15 less planes in my inventory

 

[Oscar]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/200-tariff-11-jets-down-donald-trump-inflates-his-claim-on-india-pak-ceasefire-11093521

US President Donald Trump reiterated his claim that he mediated between India and Pakistan during the 2025 military standoff, claiming he had threatened to put 200 per cent tariffs on the two nuclear-armed neighbours if they didn't stop the fighting. Speaking at his Board of Peace event, Trump went a step further and claimed that "11 jets were shot down" during the fighting.

now its 11..when will it reach 20 ? any bets?

Its Trump - it will be soon. From the Pakistani side there is no disagreement on 7 claimed. The rest is enough to get you irked up and posting here which is enough for shits and giggles.

 

[Oscar]

sir, jee lot of hits were scored on 1st raid axis, that is over IOK , that area is well cordoned off and internet is regulated.

kills were scored in space of 0010hr-0105hrs as per official ISPR breifing, we started seeing internet videos that is maximum 4-5 in morning - complete information black out was achieved by morning in IOK by Indian Establishment. that is 8-9hrs

that's is how they were able to hide Su-30MKI loss in 2019. so they were able to hide large number in 2025.

that is the only reason we netzians do not have proof. by the way i love when he said 11 aircraft and that too very very expensive aircraft

define expensive? can we get a rough idea of cost on the following

J-10CE, Rafale, Mirage 2000, JF17, MiG-29UPG, Su-30MKI (Super)

we will get the idea which aircraft he is talking about?

It isnt 11 - is going to keep up numbers his dementia remembers.
his first conference on that was the most accurate.
Tomorrow if he hits 20 it will be that.

Its likely 5 confirmed with visual evidence. The rest are claims.

 

[Yasser76]

This is getting a bit silly, if Trump is telling the truth (massive if) , then it can possibly be followed back to the Warnes article where hestated IAF were "lucky" only to have lost 4 Rafales and there were some damaged.

Could it be 4 Rafales shot down and now 4 confirmed as damaged beyond repair? If so that would make the 11 mark

8 Rafales + 1 MIG-29+ 1 SU-30+ 1 Mirage 2000 = 11?

That is the only thing I can think of.

 

[TallGuy]

It isnt 11 - is going to keep up numbers his dementia remembers.
his first conference on that was the most accurate.
Tomorrow if he hits 20 it will be that.

Its likely 5 confirmed with visual evidence. The rest are claims.

Sir, Jee you must go back and start re-watching ISPR press brief regarding 7th May Air Battle.

all figures are there - i just suggest listen to PAF chap he in the beginning said (we could have taken out 14)

lots of curve balls. now in hindsight after 9-10 months that press briefing is getting understood.

 

[Yasser76]

Sir, Jee you must go back and start re-watching ISPR press brief regarding 7th May Air Battle.

all figures are there - i just suggest listen to PAF chap he in the beginning said (we could have taken out 14)

lots of curve balls. now in hindsight after 9-10 months that press briefing is getting understood.

Two things can be true at the same time

PAF claimed 7 kills (4 Rafales plus 3 others)

4 more Rafales made it back but were written off, so technically Trumo could be right (11 planes lost) and PAF also right (only 7 claimed kills)

Of course, I am just guessing, as pointed out, Trump could be in the first stages of dementia, but if he is being accurate and has quoted US Intel he has seen, that could be one explanation for things....

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Two things can be true at the same time

PAF claimed 7 kills (4 Rafales plus 3 others)

4 more Rafales made it back but were written off, so technically Trumo could be right (11 planes lost) and PAF also right (only 7 claimed kills)

Of course, I am just guessing, as pointed out, Trump could be in the first stages of dementia, but if he is being accurate and has quoted US Intel he has seen, that could be one explanation for things....

maybe pakistanis are hiding the amount of damage they did to india as form of ceasefire deal? Maybe it was part of ceasefire deal or / to provide offramp or not to go to full scale war

Anoither possibility is alot more of the jets were written off doesnt necessarily have to be rafale could be old migs or su's


or trump is talking out of his bum or genuinely has dementia

 

[Broghil]

i do believe we hit quite afew of their parked aircrafts too, hence the increasing number and the hiding attempts of the IAF and their military.......sooner or later the numbers will come out too.

I stand firm on that......upto everyone to believe whatever, but i have a feeling they lost more than they willing to acknowledge.....and they know the truth......

Do you really think that Trump gets CIA report and updates even today about May conflict so that he keeps changing the destroyed aircraft numbers?

 

[Waz]

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Bloody hell
Let's see if it goes to 14

Every time Trump speaks about the conflict it gives Modi's India and their military mini heart attacks. Now with the Indian chief saying that no Pakistani aircraft was shot down, so who did all these belong to. The Indian media is all over it suffering hernias, as are their followers.
"But saar Tom Cooper said we achieved total victory, Trump is fake".

 

[Foinikas]

The first one was a fake - he would rather sell his mother for dimes than admit a loss.

Indeed it was,I checked it. I rushed to make memes and deleted them

 

[AeronautIR]

Two things can be true at the same time

PAF claimed 7 kills (4 Rafales plus 3 others)

4 more Rafales made it back but were written off, so technically Trumo could be right (11 planes lost) and PAF also right (only 7 claimed kills)

Of course, I am just guessing, as pointed out, Trump could be in the first stages of dementia, but if he is being accurate and has quoted US Intel he has seen, that could be one explanation for things....

I don't know about Trump but maybe there were a couple of fratricide by S400. Let's say PAF hit 10 aircraft and 2-3 were shot down like that Mi-17 over Srinagar in 2019. Who knows.

 

[Waz]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/200-tariff-11-jets-down-donald-trump-inflates-his-claim-on-india-pak-ceasefire-11093521

US President Donald Trump reiterated his claim that he mediated between India and Pakistan during the 2025 military standoff, claiming he had threatened to put 200 per cent tariffs on the two nuclear-armed neighbours if they didn't stop the fighting. Speaking at his Board of Peace event, Trump went a step further and claimed that "11 jets were shot down" during the fighting.

now its 11..when will it reach 20 ? any bets?

Basically it was half a dozen, and he's not lying, but probably mistook them for more could have gone down. US military intelligence knows what went down those nights, and with the Indian military covering up losses it makes matters worse.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Yasser76

8 Rafales + 1 MIG-29+ 1 SU-30+ 1 Mirage 2000 = 11? That is the only thing I can think of.



You will have to keep improvising your thought as by May 6, 2026, DJT would have shot down the entire IAF fleet.

Regards

 

[maxpane]

Hope our leasership ready for next round. it would be more swift and brutal.

 

[Watandar]

@Yasser76

8 Rafales + 1 MIG-29+ 1 SU-30+ 1 Mirage 2000 = 11? That is the only thing I can think of.



You will have to keep improvising your thought as by May 6, 2026, DJT would have shot down the entire IAF fleet.

Regards

The number of jets shot down is just a lollipop Trump gives to Pakistani officials , knowing how hungry they are for attention and validation, and it works every time !