Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

mulj said:
I can speak only for myself, I love both countries but I appreciate Iran more due stronger principles in politics knowing how big price had to be paid for it.
I think you are wrong about turks they just play different tune being not ready technologically and military for consequences if they take harsher posture but you as iranian can rightly so object it but that is the curse of modern muslim nations no at 1 least common goal defined and while is like that everyone will bicker and justify back and fort.
I agree with that about how you are portraited religiously by lot of sunni voices which is if you grab below surface is pure politics stuff without any logical metaphysical background, me personally do not believe in that kind of named distinction such as sunni or shia at all.
And frankly i would be frustrated about overall situation also as iranian but also proud about military achievements on its own.
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It's not about Turks not wanting to take a harder stance against Israel. It's that they are actively working for their interests. We were saying for years that Turkey and GCC are funding and training ISIS and Al-Qaida in Syria and Iraq to dismantle AoR. But we were accused of being the ones who work for Israel, wanting to genocide Sunnis etc. Now we can even read in the Epstein files that we were right. Turks because of their sect even got a pass for providing Israel with oil while they were geocoding Palestinians. The fact you still "love Turkey and refuse to condemn them proves my point" Muslim world will always favor sects over Islam.
 
mulj said:
Not really, when turks finish their kaan project with domestic engine it is game over for containing them to project their influence across region and blackmailing them via usa establishments, that is why jews are in full panic mode.
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Israel is small

It exists simply because of the U.S and west and the weapons and financial support they give

These same forces have kept Arab and Muslim countries weak and divided on purpose


All this war, all this conflict and death and destruction is simply to keep the little Jew state afloat





Times are changing and if Turkey and Pakistan and Arab states can develop increasingly powerful weapon systems and that dependence on the west is reduced or ended then it's over for Israel


Hamas are a irregular militia
Hezbollah are a irregular militia

Taking them on is no great feat for a state

Israel has been given a airforce that allows it to project power like a large state, but it's military itself reflects Israels small size and population


So if Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt and GCC led Arabs can form increasing alliances and work together on projects and weapons then Israel sees a bleak future

Israel sees Iran as the most immediate threat, if it fails to deal with Iran and Iran will be a loaded gun pointing at Israel for the foreseeable future with everyone else turning anti Israel too, the few GCC kinglets not included
 
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@Persian Gulf

More proof, that Israeli warplanes had penetrated Iranian airspace. Drones don’t level complete buildings. I doubt Israeli ALBM missiles are accurate enough to be used on dense residential building districts.
 
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Watandar said:
If the IRI goes down and Iran becomes yet another western collaborator cuck, then there is no further need for the Abraham Accords. That was setup as a sectarian ethnic alliance with Israel and Arab Sunni states on one side against non Arab Shia IRI and its allies on the other.

What is interesting is that for the last 50 years in the Mideast, Iran , Syria, Libya, Iraq and the Palestinians were the ones challenging or blocking the total West/Israel domination of the region. That created a space for the GCC and Turkey to exploit by siding with the West/Israel and consequently reaping huge economic and diplomatic rewards. IRI is the last man standing and if it also falls, then the party for the GCC and Turkey comes to an end and their value will go down enormously in the eyes of the Israel and the West.

So the funny or sad thing is that Turks/GCC are lobbying against this Iran attack only to preserve their own value to the West. This also includes preventing or sabotaging any sort of normalization or deals between Iran and the West. Iran has got to remain the bad guy :D
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So you are suggesting that Iran should kiss and make up with America.... 👍 Advice btw .
 
mangekyo said:
What is this fight for though? If it’s for «Islam» The Muslim majority has more favorable views towards for instance Turkey, which is a NATO member directly working for Zionists. Even providing oil to Israel during a literal genocide on Sunni Palestinians. While Shia Iran who have been alienated from the world in its fight for Islam is viewed by majority of Muslims as sectarians, rafidhas, infidels etc trying to genocide the Sunnis. Iran should not be sacrificed for Islam, while the rest of the Muslim world is increasingly working with the Zionists and reaping its benefits.

If it’s for economic independence and prosperity, countries who give concession to US/West are much wealthier than Iran.
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Are you fighting for Islam or Persian glory ? ...honest answer will be appreciated
 
Meengla said:
Even in the best of times after Saddam fell and Iran had the easier access to Lebanon through Iraq and Syria, I heard an analyst say that Israelis managed to destroy 1 out of every 5 Iranian supply to Hezbollah. And you may also look up how the Israelis often interdicted and destroyed the sea routes to Lebanon during the best of times for the Iranian enterprise to support the Palestinians.

The game is over for Iran; the post 1979 idealism has faced real geopolitics. It has taken almost half a century to come to that but here we are. Iran needs to salvage what it can and may be hope either Trump and/or Netanyahu are not in the decision making for the next three damned years!! Three damned years!! A long time for such a pernicious combination to exist!!
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You seem to lose your enthusiasm for fighting when the push comes to shove. It was also all over for Afghanistan and Syria, but they have survived.
 
kastor ville said:
I will bet you guys he won't
I'm going on record..............I know every single clue is pointing to an attack, but I think this was Hegseth being an eager beaver and trying to cover every base, so we don't ridicule him if Trump gave him to green light to go, and things don't go favorably.

I guess we will see what happens in the next coming week.......If I'm wrong I will apologize and eat my hat.
I have a feeling Trump will not attack.....he doesn't like the cost vs benefit in this situation....Iran was never a threat to the US.

Again for the 1000th time.....he wants quick, painless victories. The prospect of the middle east on fire is not a badge he wants to wear.
Also the economy right now cannot handle an oil shock....so it's 2 strikes against him.
I guess we'll see how crazy the mofo really is.......I say he's not that crazy. Besides, he may have intel on China and Russia helping, and that would scare him even more.
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You forgot the "X factor"? Israel influence on the US..
 
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