Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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@Persian Gulf

More proof, that Israeli warplanes had penetrated Iranian airspace. Drones don’t level complete buildings. I doubt Israeli ALBM missiles are accurate enough to be used on dense residential building districts.
 
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Watandar said:
If the IRI goes down and Iran becomes yet another western collaborator cuck, then there is no further need for the Abraham Accords. That was setup as a sectarian ethnic alliance with Israel and Arab Sunni states on one side against non Arab Shia IRI and its allies on the other.

What is interesting is that for the last 50 years in the Mideast, Iran , Syria, Libya, Iraq and the Palestinians were the ones challenging or blocking the total West/Israel domination of the region. That created a space for the GCC and Turkey to exploit by siding with the West/Israel and consequently reaping huge economic and diplomatic rewards. IRI is the last man standing and if it also falls, then the party for the GCC and Turkey comes to an end and their value will go down enormously in the eyes of the Israel and the West.

So the funny or sad thing is that Turks/GCC are lobbying against this Iran attack only to preserve their own value to the West. This also includes preventing or sabotaging any sort of normalization or deals between Iran and the West. Iran has got to remain the bad guy :D
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So you are suggesting that Iran should kiss and make up with America.... 👍 Advice btw .
 
mangekyo said:
What is this fight for though? If it’s for «Islam» The Muslim majority has more favorable views towards for instance Turkey, which is a NATO member directly working for Zionists. Even providing oil to Israel during a literal genocide on Sunni Palestinians. While Shia Iran who have been alienated from the world in its fight for Islam is viewed by majority of Muslims as sectarians, rafidhas, infidels etc trying to genocide the Sunnis. Iran should not be sacrificed for Islam, while the rest of the Muslim world is increasingly working with the Zionists and reaping its benefits.

If it’s for economic independence and prosperity, countries who give concession to US/West are much wealthier than Iran.
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Are you fighting for Islam or Persian glory ? ...honest answer will be appreciated
 
Meengla said:
Even in the best of times after Saddam fell and Iran had the easier access to Lebanon through Iraq and Syria, I heard an analyst say that Israelis managed to destroy 1 out of every 5 Iranian supply to Hezbollah. And you may also look up how the Israelis often interdicted and destroyed the sea routes to Lebanon during the best of times for the Iranian enterprise to support the Palestinians.

The game is over for Iran; the post 1979 idealism has faced real geopolitics. It has taken almost half a century to come to that but here we are. Iran needs to salvage what it can and may be hope either Trump and/or Netanyahu are not in the decision making for the next three damned years!! Three damned years!! A long time for such a pernicious combination to exist!!
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You seem to lose your enthusiasm for fighting when the push comes to shove. It was also all over for Afghanistan and Syria, but they have survived.
 
kastor ville said:
I will bet you guys he won't
I'm going on record..............I know every single clue is pointing to an attack, but I think this was Hegseth being an eager beaver and trying to cover every base, so we don't ridicule him if Trump gave him to green light to go, and things don't go favorably.

I guess we will see what happens in the next coming week.......If I'm wrong I will apologize and eat my hat.
I have a feeling Trump will not attack.....he doesn't like the cost vs benefit in this situation....Iran was never a threat to the US.

Again for the 1000th time.....he wants quick, painless victories. The prospect of the middle east on fire is not a badge he wants to wear.
Also the economy right now cannot handle an oil shock....so it's 2 strikes against him.
I guess we'll see how crazy the mofo really is.......I say he's not that crazy. Besides, he may have intel on China and Russia helping, and that would scare him even more.
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You forgot the "X factor"? Israel influence on the US..
 
"Axios": The United States' war with Iran may begin very soon
 
Serendipity said:
Syncretism is a convenient resort in these circumstances. Many would not view the two as separate even though Islam was the direct cause of the undoing of Persia.
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Iran stayed under Islamic dominion for roughly 100 years then Persia returned so bad that us Iranic-Turkic Shahis adapted their customs, language and everything despite ruling everything and everyone from South Asian Indics, Arabs, Central Asians, Maghrebis, eastern euros and what not.
 
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