Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Even when the bombing begins, you will notice that they will not attack oil and energy facilities because the collapse of Iran is not in their interest,
On the contrary, it will benefit Israel's competitors..

I don't know if collapse of Iran is in America's interest but I think it is in Israel's interests and they even say so. They just can't trust the next Iranian regime to not one day challenge Israel and so better to have any other Syria in Iran.

I think whether to have a frontal war or not boils down to the political cost to the Trump administration in case of American casualties. Even Reuters top story this morning was about Trump not 'sold' this war to the Americans. Speaking of which, we may recall how much effort the Bush admin did after 9/11 in the UN, in media, and in diplomatic circles to sell the Iraq War. No such thing now. Which just points to how degraded the once vaunted American 'democracy' has become under Trump II Presidency. It is a dangerous dictatorship!
 
as i said before i hope pakistan palaces as many awacs on border as possible about to be a masterclass in tactics by USAF/USN/IAF

India's General Bakshi keeps saying when the Americans attack Iran then Pakistan will facilitate that attack from Balochistan. LOL!
 
as i said before i hope pakistan palaces as many awacs on border as possible about to be a masterclass in tactics by USAF/USN/IAF

The learning curve for the Ukraine war and and what the U.S and Israel is attempting to do should be MASSIVE

We should be taking notes and then planning a response
 
I don't know if collapse of Iran is in America's interest but I think it is in Israel's interests and they even say so. They just can't trust the next Iranian regime to not one day challenge Israel and so better to have any other Syria in Iran.

I think whether to have a frontal war or not boils down to the political cost to the Trump administration in case of American casualties. Even Reuters top story this morning was about Trump not 'sold' this war to the Americans. Speaking of which, we may recall how much effort the Bush admin did after 9/11 in the UN, in media, and in diplomatic circles to sell the Iraq War. No such thing now. Which just points to how degraded the once vaunted American 'democracy' has become under Trump II Presidency. It is a dangerous dictatorship!
Balkanization of Iran is not in Pakistan's interest. This is their window of oppurtunity and they are gonna make the most of it. But make no mistake Iran is just one course on their menu.
 
Israel is small

It exists simply because of the U.S and west and the weapons and financial support they give

These same forces have kept Arab and Muslim countries weak and divided on purpose


All this war, all this conflict and death and destruction is simply to keep the little Jew state afloat





Times are changing and if Turkey and Pakistan and Arab states can develop increasingly powerful weapon systems and that dependence on the west is reduced or ended then it's over for Israel


Hamas are a irregular militia
Hezbollah are a irregular militia

Taking them on is no great feat for a state

Israel has been given a airforce that allows it to project power like a large state, but it's military itself reflects Israels small size and population


So if Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt and GCC led Arabs can form increasing alliances and work together on projects and weapons then Israel sees a bleak future

Israel sees Iran as the most immediate threat, if it fails to deal with Iran and Iran will be a loaded gun pointing at Israel for the foreseeable future with everyone else turning anti Israel too, the few GCC kinglets not included
Now they can before it was simply impossible due technological dependence and that has changed and is changing rapidly.
 
Balkanization of Iran is not in Pakistan's interest. This is their window of oppurtunity and they are gonna make the most of it. But make no mistake Iran is just one course on their menu.

I have not seen a single Pakistani analyst who wants this war against Iran; on the contrary, there is widespread support for Iran in Pakistan. Not only there are the civilizational ties but to have an Israel backed regime change in Iran would be dangerous for Pakistan's own security--and for Turkey's too.
 
The Rabbis have always gotten what they wanted from USA regardless of democrats or republicans. And honestly Israelis are effectively done with using America if Trump starts war. Then will be free to do what ever they want to these surrounding goyim Arabs.

Trump admin are more interested in defending Rabbis abroad and putting American first.

 
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I have not seen a single Pakistani analyst who wants this war against Iran; on the contrary, there is widespread support for Iran in Pakistan. Not only there are the civilizational ties but to have an Israel backed regime change in Iran would be dangerous for Pakistan's own security--and for Turkey's too.

I mean its obvious at this point. They have been chipping away at any resitance though the years. Once Iran falls whats next? They are basically telling you if you listen.

Also this extends beyond the middle east.

I'm sure the Chinese have and will be studying what the US is doing now. (in terms of deployment and potential employment)

But they are the main course served at the end.
 
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I mean its obvious at this point. They have been chipping away at any resitance though the years. Once Iran falls whats next? They are basically telling you if you listen.

Pakistan is not a threat to Israel at least into near future; Pakistani planners know who the real enemy is and so the Pakistanis do whatever it takes to buttress Pakistani military, including the shameful bootlicking of Trump. Sure, diplomatically, Pakistanis make a lot of noise against Israel but Pakistanis know their limits. They really know their limits and don't over-reach because Pakistan is not capable of tackling a Superpower and its allies while there is the giant, powerful India ready to pounce given any opportunity.

I think IF Iran falls to the level like Syria has, then Israel's next target will be Turkey, specifically the Turkish foothold in Syria after Assad fell. That's too close for comfort for Israel; Pakistan is more peripheral and not only in terms of geography.
 
Pakistan is not a threat to Israel at least into near future; Pakistani planners know who the real enemy is and so the Pakistanis do whatever it takes to buttress Pakistani military, including the shameful bootlicking of Trump. Sure, diplomatically, Pakistanis make a lot of noise against Israel but Pakistanis know their limits. They really know their limits and don't over-reach because Pakistan is not capable of tackling a Superpower and its allies while there is the giant, powerful India ready to pounce given any opportunity.

I think IF Iran falls to the level like Syria has, then Israel's next target will be Turkey, specifically the Turkish foothold in Syria after Assad fell. That's too close for comfort for Israel; Pakistan is more peripheral and not only in terms of geography.

You underestimate Jews/Israelis

Pakistan is enemy no 1 - especially after signing defence pact with Saudis

We are located in Asia but lives in Middle East spiritually.

Recent statement by former Israeli PM should open eyes in Rawalpindi
 

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