Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[the saint]

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[hyperman]

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This should be a lesson to those who supported the PKK against Turkey, and now the same snakes are turning around and biting.

 

[mulj]

Pakistan is not a threat to Israel at least into near future; Pakistani planners know who the real enemy is and so the Pakistanis do whatever it takes to buttress Pakistani military, including the shameful bootlicking of Trump. Sure, diplomatically, Pakistanis make a lot of noise against Israel but Pakistanis know their limits. They really know their limits and don't over-reach because Pakistan is not capable of tackling a Superpower and its allies while there is the giant, powerful India ready to pounce given any opportunity.

I think IF Iran falls to the level like Syria has, then Israel's next target will be Turkey, specifically the Turkish foothold in Syria after Assad fell. That's too close for comfort for Israel; Pakistan is more peripheral and not only in terms of geography.

Pakistan itself is not threat to them but as part of trilateral cooperation between SA, Turkiye suddenly becomes grave one due his nuclear capabilities and ability once facilities established to burn out weapon systems like bread in bakeries due its human wealth.
Jews think ahead and calculate rather well and they are more then aware of it.
I assume your estimation is like that due current poor economic base of country but will change eventually. Only problem i see is time available, lot of things have to happen fast and in same time keep country stable and below ziojews/american radar, it is sensitive job.

 

[kastor ville]

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This should be a lesson to those who supported the PKK against Turkey, and now the same snakes are turning around and biting.

This is one week work for the IRGC. All 5 of them.

 

[hyperman]

This is one week work for the IRGC. All 5 of them.

With US air support?

 

[StrategicBear]

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[mangekyo]

How it proves your point? By refusing to take a side between two rival and diverging paths muslim countries itself?

One side is fighting the zionists. The other side is teamed up with he zionists themselves. They funded and trained ISIS, Al-Qaida to fight the resistance against zionism. Installed a puppet in Syria to further dismantle the resistance against zionists, even provided the zionists with oil while they were geocoding Palestianians. But you say "I can't take side between two Muslim countries" It proves my point because when forced to pick between sect and Islam, muslims usually choose sect, like what you are doing here.

Iran belongs to the "wrong" sect. Fighting Israel for Islam means also fighting against Israels stooges, which are majority of muslim countries. Therefore fighting for islam makes no sense.

 

[Persian Gulf]

the new Pick Axe mountain site (next to Natanz) has 4 underground tunnel entrances - two on east side and two on the west side, around 1km apart

one speculated route between them in yellow suggests the mountain provides approx 150-160 metres of protection at its highest point (relative to the elevation of the entrances)

by contrast, Fordow offered 50-80 metres of protection at the highest points. notably, GBU-57s can penetrate 60m of earth before exploding.

 

[tsunset]

Pahlavi will give out Iranian Kurdistan to separatists and agree for the US and Israel making forward bases and total control of resource in this region in the name of freedom

Same for Azerbaijan and Balochistan, they will give them for free, Iran's land will me limited to only Tehran and its suburbs, all the rest of Iran will be independent failed states

He will also hand out all Iranian islands to UAE and PGCC for free

Israel will install bases to ensure that Iran will never be a threat for the next thousand years, and Pahlavi in exchange of that will give -99% discount oil and gas via direct pipelines to Israel and Europe to assist them in the wars they are waging

 

[ShapurII]

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Are they now? I thought they were Muslims first and foremost?
Didn't Khomeini infamously say "ملی گرایی کفر است"?

 

[mulj]

One side is fighting the zionists. The other side is teamed up with he zionists themselves. They funded and trained ISIS, Al-Qaida to fight the resistance against zionism. Installed a puppet in Syria to further dismantle the resistance against zionists, even provided the zionists with oil while they were geocoding Palestianians. But you say "I can't take side between two Muslim countries" It proves my point because when forced to pick between sect and Islam, muslims usually choose sect, like what you are doing here.

I think it is more complicated then that with lot of caveats but it is futile to dissect those in current situation but if iranian leadership thinks like you do problem is much bigger then argumentative talk on forum.

 

[maxpane]

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i thought he is going to give some evidence to prove his point

 

[mangekyo]

I think it is more complicated then that with lot of caveats but it is futile to dissect those in current situation but if iranian leadership thinks like you do problem is much bigger then argumentative talk on forum.

I have a feeling whatever the next government after Khamenei will be, will think this way. Islamic unity does not exist. It will unfortunately always remain Sunni vs Shia. But Iran tried at least to look beyond sect and unify muslims.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Seems far fetched but its the top goy wr are talking about so....

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[GWXP]

The forces US has assembled in the region is enough for 14 days of war with Iran.

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So this might be a limited war - a shoot-out between US and Iran with US conducting sorties against Iran for 14 days and Iran striking US bases with ballistic missiles/cruise missiles/drones.

Iran can withstand a limited 14 day war with US and Iran will emerge even stronger after the war with people uniting with the government against the foreign aggression.

Iran will not lose even if the limited 14 day war turns into a full-scale US-Iran war with US deploying even more assets to the region and conducting a massive air campaign against Iran, because in this scenario Iran's economic infrastructure will lay in ruins but US will suffer even more economic damage when Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz and destroys Persian Gulf oil infrastructure.

Both a limited strike against Iran (which will achieve nothing) and a full-scale war (with Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz and destroying regional oil infrastructure) is a lose-lose for USA.

Only incompetent and idiotic Donald Trump could fall to Netanyahu's trap.