Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

One kilogram of lamb meat in Iran is $9.25
One kilogram of chicken meat is $3
One kilogram of Persian rice is $2.8
One liter of sunflower cooking oil is $1.52 (cheapest cooking oil)

Compare these prices to your own country and you will see that food prices in Iran are pretty high for Iranian salaries. Rent in Tehran is also insanely high.

Our national identity has nothing to do with Islam and Palestine. We have our own traditions and national identity. Nowruz, Shab-e Chelleh, Chaharshanbeh Souri, etc. A secular Iran does not mean an Iran without its national identity. Islam is only a small part of our identity.

I'd rather have a civil war than let the Ayatollahs ruin Iran slowly.

So one of the worse case scenarios you would prefer Iran devolve into a Syria Sudan or Afghanistan situation where millions would die perhaps decades of fighting and infighting.

I’m not Iranian but even I know if and I hope it never goes down to this level but if Iran did collapse and civil war did erupt it wouldn’t be just a civil war it would be multiple conflict within Iran many provinces with many countries and groups trying to carve out a section for each part of Iran millions dead within a few years and Iran becoming the new Afghanistan as the result of it……seriously you would rather have high food prices because you don’t like the guys running the show not saying a lot of these guys are saints but compared to Bibi and trump they’re angels

 

[Tehrani021]

Your assumption is that Americans would care about what was used to reduce the American body bags.
I am with Max Blumenthal and I posted his video above: To wrap up the attack on Iran, tactical nukes might be used and a duplicate of the escalation threat like used against Japan in the 1940s.

I don't think the American populace at large would approve a nuke attack in return for less body bags. I would think they would want less wars and more focus on their own perils internally. I understand what you're saying, no need to repeat it...all I'm saying is that it would be a massive own goal for US if they did something as stupid as that.

 

[Immortals]

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[BHAN85]

USS Ford (CVN-78) arrived in NSA Souda Bay, Greece. – Reuters
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US jets, Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier arrive in Israel | The Jerusalem Post

The USS Gerald R. Ford, the world’s largest aircraft carrier, is set to dock in Haifa as part of US reinforcements in the Middle East, amid rising tensions with Iran.

www.jpost.com

It will be in Haifa port soon.

It's a good window of opportunity for Israel, to launch a first strike against Iran when she will be in Israel port.

 

[Cash gk]

The Islamic Republic of Iran is a textbook example of a failed state. Just like Saddam's Iraq.

You are a failed example of a proper analyst. While they may have some flaws, they are warriors. They will not easily be forgotten in history books, as they have already written their names in history by choosing dignity over slavery.

Israel is defeating everyone in the Arab world, but they couldn't take on Iran, so they brought in their big brother, America. Now they know they cannot fight Iran alone. They've brought America in again.
That shows Iranan character

 

[ShapurII]

So one of the worse case scenarios you would prefer Iran devolve into a Syria Sudan or Afghanistan situation where millions would die perhaps decades of fighting and infighting.

I’m not Iranian but even I know if and I hope it never goes down to this level but if Iran did collapse and civil war did erupt it wouldn’t be just a civil war it would be multiple conflict writhing Iran many provinces with many countries and groups trying to carve out a section for each part of Iran millions dead within a few years and Iran becoming the new Afghanistan as the result of it……seriously you would rather have high food prices because you don’t like the guys running the show not saying a lot of these guys are saints but compared to Bibi and trump they’re angels

I would happily sit in a land-locked Tehran bordered with a bunch of God knows what stans instead of helping ungrateful Palestinians. And I say that suspecting that you're a Palestinian.

The worst case scenario is that the Ayatollahs remain in power.

 

[mulj]

The problem is that the regime tried to detach our currency from the global market and relied on the concept of self-sufficiency. So, when we started to face water shortage and our agriculture and farming sectors were hit, we were forced to import food from other countries. Besides that, when our oil exports were reduced, we started to export more non-oil products like agricultural products and food. All of these factors together raised food prices in Iran.

Go ahead and talk to other Iranians on the internet. PDF is by far the most pro-IR circle you can find on the internet, by a long shot. Find Iranians on other websites and talk to them.

Even better, if you can visit Istanbul, talk to Iranians there. They will tell you what we think about our identity.

That is actually good concept but time and resources are needed actually workable with some foreign support like from China.

I saw enough on X, there are basically two groups of people those aspiring to take over are unhinged lunatics who would kill all muslims and demolish any islamic heritage, people that you are rooting for and on other spectrum there is mix of everything who do not have workable idea how to exit this catch 22 situation but decent enough to accept current setup as lesser evil so to speak.

If opportunity occurs i would certainly like to talk with them.

 

[the saint]

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[ShapurII]

You are a failed example of a proper analyst. While they may have some flaws, they are warriors. They will not easily be forgotten in history books, as they have already written their names in history by not accepting slavery over dignity.

Yeah, warriors that lost 35 of their highest ranking officials in 2 days.

Warriors that have been claiming to be waiting for an opportunity to destroy Israel for 47 years, claimed that once the war is started they won't end it until Israel is finished, and yet couldn't kill even as many Israelis as Hamas killed in a single day after 12 days of war.

 

[Cash gk]

Yeah, warriors that lost 35 of their highest ranking officials in 2 days.

Warriors that have been claiming to be waiting for an opportunity to destroy Israel for 47 years, claimed that once the war is started they won't end it until Israel is finished, and yet couldn't kill even as many Israelis as Hamas killed in a single day after 12 days of war.

In Islam, ranks are nothing. I think you must read about the first four wars in Islamic history.

 

[ShapurII]

That is actually good concept but time and resources are needed actually workable with some foreign support like from China.

I saw enough on X, there are basically two groups of people those aspiring to take over are unhinged lunatics who would kill all muslims and demolish any islamic heritage, people that you are rooting for and on other spectrum there is mix of everything who do not have workable idea how to exit this catch 22 situation but decent enough to accept current setup as lesser evil so to speak.

If opportunity occurs i would certainly like to talk with them.

The people who would kill all Muslims and demolish any Islamic heritage are angry at the system. The system has been using Islam to kill its protestors for decades.

Do you know what crime they are using for killing protestors in Iran? Muharaba. Basically, the regime in Iran labels everyone who protests against them as Muhareb, i.e. a person that has waged war on God. Can you f*cking believe that?

Obviously, when you fight against your people using Islam as a weapon, people will respond to that by getting more anti-Muslim.

 

[ShapurII]

In Islam, ranks are nothing. I think you must read about the first four wars in Islamic history.

We are not living in 14 centuries ago where Arab clans fought with swords and knives in the middle of desert.

 

[Cash gk]

Yeah, warriors that lost 35 of their highest ranking officials in 2 days.

Warriors that have been claiming to be waiting for an opportunity to destroy Israel for 47 years, claimed that once the war is started they won't end it until Israel is finished, and yet couldn't kill even as many Israelis as Hamas killed in a single day after 12 days of war.

Are are you sure your ancestors were Persians great Persians..or using flag

 

[ShapurII]

Are are you sure your ancestors were Persians great Persians..or using flag

Our ancestors fought for the glory of Iran, not for the sake of Palestinian people who do not even respect or like us because we're from a different sect of Islam and we're not Arabs.

How many Palestinians cried for 1300 Iranians killed and 5600 Iranians injured in the 12-day war?

Israel hit Iran with much more fire power than Gaza. We were dragged into that war purely because of Palestine. Do you think Palestinians appreciated it? Many Arabs, including Palestinians, were celebrating the war of Israel on Iran and are celebrating now that the US is coming for us.

 

[Cash gk]

Our ancestors fought for the glory of Iran, not for the sake of Palestinian people who do not even respect or like us because we're from a different sect of Islam and we're not Arabs.

How many Palestinians cried for 1300 Iranians killed and 5600 Iranians injured in the 12-day war?

Israel hit Iran with much more fire power than Gaza. We were dragged into that war purely because of Palestine. Do you think Palestinians appreciated it? Many Arabs, including Palestinians, were celebrating the war of Israel on Iran and are celebrating now that the US is coming for us.

You sure you Iranian. Where i am seeing you not