Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tsunset]

Indians call themselves world power. But what is this behavior. I suspected in last iran israel conflict the role of indians inside iran. Indians are not the 2nd but equivalent to israel in terms of world evil.

Indian forum members i feel sorry that india will have new hunting grounds and abductions to satisfy bahl now.

Unfortunately the delusional leadership and Araghchi the clown are in massive denial about India

Even if India openly assist Israel to attack Iran, they will still be in denial about it, because they can't accept the fact that India is with Israel

What they need to understand that India is not Iran's friend is India bombing Iran directly, they always need to wait for the worst before finally reacting, and even with that i still have doubts whether they will accept it or not

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I partially agree with his views

there will be enough war to create room for more talks

both sides need to show 'performance'!

(so that balance dont go out of hand)

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[Meengla]

Unfortunately the delusional leadership and Araghchi the clown are in massive denial about India
Even if India openly assist Israel to attack Iran, they will still be in denial about it, because they can't accept the fact that India is with Israel
What they need to understand that India is not Iran's friend is India bombing Iran directly, they always need to wait for the worst before finally reacting, and even with that i still have doubts whether they will accept it or not

To some extent, even I, of Pakistani origin, can understand Iranians were somewhat skeptical of Pakistan since 1979 because Pakistan is in American orbit and a close ally of Saudi Arabia and both those two countries, as we all know, have been hostile to Iran. But the situation between Iran and Saudi Arabia is significantly improved in last few years and as far as Pakistan's relations with America have been, they were/are always about Pakistan's focus on India with even then Pakistanis would never do anything against Iran. Never.

Having said that, Iranian officials misread Pakistan's geopolitical constraints and put too much faith in a snake of BJP-led nation like India. Just look at Modi's absolutely mindboggling folly to hug an international verdicted criminal like Netanyahu and to address the Israeli Knesset just when a catastrophic war against Iran is being contemplated. Need I say more?!

 

[Immortals]

"The Wall Street Journal reports that U.S. demands presented to Iran in Geneva include:

1. Dismantling the Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan nuclear sites.

2. Transferring all enriched uranium to the United States.

3. Removing all sunset clauses, permanent restrictions.

4. Zero enrichment, with only the Tehran Research Reactor allowed to remain.

5. Minimal sanctions relief upfront; further relief only after full compliance.

Even on paper, these terms read like an ultimatum drafted by people who still think Iran negotiates from weakness. Tehran won’t absorb demands designed to dismantle its deterrence and hand its strategic core to Washington."

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But Agarchi claims U.S. has never said zero enrichment.

Our FM is a moron and a farce. Even worse than his mentor Zarif.

 

[tsunset]

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[maverick]

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Iranians are some solid people, ballsy, dont give a damn to any pressure.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

Pakistan must stand with Iran against invasion by Zionazi-US aggression. This is great opportunity for Pakistan as India has abandoned Iran and the port of Chahbahar and now put all its cards with US-Zionazi regime change plans. Pakistan will have more of the support with Iran against any aggression or terrorism from Afghanistan. But our great leader met with Trump and discussed US invasion plans of Iran. We have traitors in our own country..

 

[Ali_Baba]

At this point iranians are begging to get steamrolled.....

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Nuclear weapons are allowed in Islam. Why do they think they are not ?? ( Same bunch of people who can't agree on which day we start and stop Ramadan ?? )

 

[kastor ville]

The Islamic Republic will be flushed down the toilet soon and it will go down as the worst regime in modern Iran.

They wasted 35 years of our time, nearly a trillion dollars over a nuclear program that was destroyed and was never intended for anything useful, be it civilian nuclear fuel or nuclear weapons. Completely useless from the beginning.

They wasted decades of our wealth over Arab militias and tin-pot dictators that didn't raise a finger for them when there was a risk of war.

They caused national riots and discord over a KGB-agent that is already 87 years old and people regularly chant death to him every year. Assembly of Experts never functioned as it was meant to in the constitution.

I don't about the flush part....but they have been very wrong, and they did ruin the future of our youth, not to mention they've squandered probably more than a trillion dollars....some of it on spending, but most of it from lost opportunity for growth and prosperity. I guess the lesson here is don't give the control of the country to unqualified people. In the US we got Trump, a reality tv host....In Iran we got a guy from the mosque. Maduro, Milei, Berlusconi,.... all fails. I hate to go there but Hitler was a dumbass too, he was an agitator, not a manager, or leader...every time these types of people come into power the population pays the price.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Nuclear weapons are allowed in Islam. Why does think they are not ?? ( Same bunch of people who can't agree on which day we start and stop Ramadan ?? )

khamenei agrees with the jews that muslims shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons. He is the number one obstacle to a Iranian nuclear weapon and has done more block it than any sanction, sabotage, or even military attack.

 

[tsunset]

At this point iranians are begging to get steamrolled.....

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Fake news probably

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Much of Twitter /X posts are fake or circulated with intention to sensationalize things , with anonymous names

"South Asia Index" hmm is it economic poster or someone talking about war

The facts are , it takes 1-2 minutes for Iranians missiles to reach any spot near it's shore a place such as Strait of Hormuz . It took 5-10 minutes to reach Israel
UAE would be likely 2-3 minutes away

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Nuclear weapons are allowed in Islam. Why does think they are not ?? ( Same bunch of people who can't agree on which day we start and stop Ramadan ?? )

He is referring to the Khameni fatwa. which says as in islam you cannot kill innocent people so weapons of mass destruction such as Nuclear weapon has been haram as it will kill innocent civilians as well

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Carrying weapon is not Haram in Islam , having arms to defend yourself is mandatory

At time of war generally it is even more mandatory

So I don't think any such narrative is true , a post created about Iran saying "Nukes are harm" is created to spread negativity

 

[Meengla]

..but they have been very wrong, and they did ruin the future of our youth, not to mention they've squandered probably more than a trillion dollars....some of it on spending, but most of it from lost opportunity for growth and prosperity. I guess the lesson here is don't give the control of the country to unqualified people. In the US we got Trump, a reality tv host....In Iran we got a guy from the mosque. Maduro, Milei, Berlusconi,.... all fails.

Several countries with great natural resources wealth have squandered their chances to be truly wealthy and prosperous: Venezuela, Nigeria, Iran, Russia. They either indulged in wrong geopolitical adventures and/or indulged their domestic population too much. In contrast, the GCC Arab countries, which this forum loves to hate, have lifted tens of millions of people out of poverty not only in their own countries but also to even more expats millions.

And pity that some Pakistanis here, especially the expat ones, advocate a resource starved, extremely overpopulated country like Pakistan to take an aggressive stance far beyond Pakistan's borders when a powerful, large eight decade old neighbor India is ready to pounce given any chance. Who needs enemies with friends like these?!