Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Serendipity said:
Why do people implode against each other at the first sign of external stresses. Internal grievances against each other are almost always at least partially valid. Doesnt mean either side uses an external threat to the collective as a stage for airing these grievances. That is the behaviour of traitors who are more interested in a factions success than the country's success. Open a separate thread and feel feee to hate each other there. But there is a time to have a combined front.
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There is a big problem here. Yes, politics should not be brought into it, but that is not all. Equally so, maligning of Pakistan army and its top brass should also not be brought into the discussion, on politically motivated basis. That is when things get messy. Especially when a war is going on.

So yes, lets not bring politics into any of this at all, not directly and not indirectly at this time. We need to focus on the enemy. Whoever is happy with army's current support and whoever is upset at army's current non-support can have shouting matches later. That role keeps reversing every few years anyway so all of this political shouting is of no consequence anyway.
 
Oracle said:
Pakistan had no choice.
Afghan kept on attacking and harbouring terrorists. What choice Pakistan had?
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Pakistan has strong (stronger than ever before) relations with major world and regional powers, India’s biggest supporters are the Taliban in Afghanistan and pariah Israel.

Yes, Modi is winning, and Pakistan is losing globally (according to PTI supporters).
 
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Protagoras said:
No a single KPK based political party has outrightly supported the strikes. That includes JUI/JI/ANP. The support has come from PML-N (Punjab), PPP (Sindh) and MQM (Karachi)

The response in KPK varies from calling for peace to some nationalists suporting Afghanistan.

PTI is the only national party with support within the KPK youth.

PMLN/PPP/ISPR hold zero traction there.

Afghanistan and India would want to frame it as an Afghan/Punjabi issue. The fau--jeeti and Patwari push to frame PTI as anti-national is going to hurt the federation in the coming years.
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Do you live in Pakistan ? PTI and JUI ANP all have faced death threats and have been bombed. The minute a JUIF member starts to speak against ttp they kill him.. The general atmosphere among KPKian youth is positive.. They have carried the most coffins in this war and thus had the biggest bone to pick... Bombardment shouldn't stop till TTP is forced by TTA to surface... Launching a surprise operation to clear some areas with help of locals won't be a bad idea.
 
During the effective operation of the Pakistan Army, the Afghan Taliban's Shpola camp suffered heavy losses

Pakistani security forces are targeting the hideouts and military installations of the Afghan Taliban force

In the full and powerful response of the Pakistani security forces, the Afghan Taliban forces faced heavy losses

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Panzerkiel said:
Actually, what you want to say is this....

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also add this 😂
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hussain0216 said:
If perpetual war is being waged against Pakistan, what can we do except respond?


Negotiations don't work
Afghans don't listen
They don't their support for TTP and BLA
And we have too many jahils spreading propaganda

What else can we do except strike back against our enemies
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This is the worst time to open a new front.Fact is if US starts a war in Iran the resulting destabilization automatically affects Balochistan especially at a time when BLA are conducting terrorism at near impunity

With this Afghan front opened up things will get only more complicated especially with the volatile political situation in KP


This would mean diverting scarce resources from the eastern front practically inviting Modi for a sindoor 2.0
 
unconventional said:
Pakistan has strong (stronger than ever before) relations with major world and regional powers, India’s biggest supporters are the Taliban in Afghanistan and pariah Israel.

Yes, Modi is winning, and Pakistan is losing globally.
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If us Iran war happens it will change whole region.

So Pakistan is looking at bigger picture.
 
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Side benefit of this is getting in some good target practice for the air to ground roles for various Sqds.

We simply cannot win a war with expensive missiles alone against India so getting trained up with LBGs and iron bombs is no bad thing. Especially when there is no medium or high altitude SAM threat. Just need to be weary of any MANPADS they have
 
Raj-Hindustani said:
What if it was just propaganda used to justify joining the war? There was no practical way for them to gain access to warm-water ports, and they didn’t actually need them.

Russia historically wanted warm-water access in general, but reaching Pakistan was not a practical option. They had alternate options
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KGB had ingressed into Baloch separatists.
They sold them Marxism but funnily enough the ones leading them were old feudal lords who are the most responsible for the backwardness of the area.
 
Protagoras said:
For all those yapping about PTI, this is JUIs response. These two political parties represent 90% of the populance there. The rest is PTM/ANP/Achakzai.

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That pretty much sums up the collective mood in KPK.

To have PML-N(Punjabi Nationalist Party) lead the narrative for this war with their p!ss poor tandoor wala jabs is not going to get you a united front.
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Did the PTI ever say ke security ke hawale se Pakistan ki shikayat jaiz he?

I don’t think I have ever heard such statements coming out from the national level party PTI, whereas even junior parties like the JUI can mention such things.
 
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