Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Trump was very tough on China in his first term and tried again in the beginning of his second term but failed. World situation has changed much since he first took power.

China got bluffed by his first term, and now China is completely immune to it.

China also got much stronger than the version that he encountered during his first term.

However, he is not giving up, and he is still trying to humiliate China by destroying Iran in front of it.

Even Iran is not willing to cooperate with China, and believe they can be spared by distancing themselves from China.

For Trump, Iran is become a sacrificial lamb for his continuous proxy war with China.
 
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Not just Israel, I want to see a US Navy Carrier sunk too, but I guess that harder target is for later?
 
It was not "completely defenceless" nor "caught off guard".

Rather, the type of weaponry used simply cannot be defended against. A US missile strike can only be absorbed and then retaliated against.
Doesn't Iran have CIWS systems that can fire 4000-5000 rounds a minute to take out enemy cruise missiles and PGMs?
 
For those who say Iran should have done pre emptive strikes. Pre emptive strikes on who exactly? Israel, US, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Jordan? All of them? Which country on earth has the capability to hit all these targets at once and survive?
 
Your viewpoint suffers from a serious misunderstanding at its core.
Sure.

Regardless, my overall point stands.

Whether China was unwilling, or unable to sell fighters to Iran, the end result was the same.

They were forced to go back to Russia, whom they knew would screw them, in the hopes that Russia wouldn't actually screw them for the 100th time.
 
They first waves will likely get intercepted because there is way too many anti-ballistic missile defenses deployed in region by now

Also shows stupidity of Iranian leadership. Israelis know that Iran will only act as reactionary. Israel is fully prepared for this time and place. Whoever plans first and executes first by launching attack first gains massive advantage in both causing the first major blow and for its own defense. They know the wounded victim will act in reaction only exactly as they were expecting.

Iran will lose a lot. The regime may survive but its ballistic missile capabilities now good bye. It will fire missiles towards israel which will be intercepted.
 
It is the fault of the leadership to not have build the Nuke. It is their fault, to not be able to project enough power. However, like in the 12 days war, hopefully we will see some serious deterrence soon.
 
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Seems like only 2 missiles.

I hope more is on the way.
 
I hope you will re-assess now. I was saying Iran must act now and do max damage while it can. Deployment of war machine at its doorstep is already a declaration of war but you guys were opposing. You guys had same mindset as Iranian leadership.

Nope, attacking US preemptively will make Iran huge huge lost

Getting attack by US will result much less lost on Iran.

Both have different consequence on the potential scale of war
 

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