Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

Iranians seems to be infested with traitors at all levels. Their counter intelligence is truly incompetent and most likely compromised.

How do you know for sure it eas HUMINT that US and Israel used to find the SL and not ELINT or other electronic/ digital / telecommunications means?

 

[mangekyo]

Is Ahmadinejad dead?

 

[Cash gk]

Former president Hamdi najath is no more

 

[GWXP]

If Iran mines the Strait Of Hormuz and keeps US minesweepers away from the Strait for 2 months with anti-ship missiles and drones, it will take additional 4 months for minesweepers to clear the mines - 6 months in total.

If Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz for 6 months and destroys Gulf oil infrastructure, US economy will lose 4 years of development and US will add additional 4trln dollars to its debt over several years (as per Gemini AI).

If US brings additional forces and conducts an Iraq 1991 style bombing campaign against Iran, its infrastructure and economy will be in ruins, but Iran will score adding additional 4trln dollars to US debt and pulling US economy behind by 4 years. Also Europe and Asia will be devastated.

 

[r3alist]

A lot of people are wondering if this war will affect China. So let me quickly explain.

To set the table lets assume the worst and that all the iranian and gulf arab oil infrastructure built over half a century costing over a trillion is destroyed and there is massive shortage of oil internationally and that oil supply will not be returning soon.

Currently:

1. Over 60% of Chinese vehicles are EVs (and growing) and China uses more clean energy than the rest of the world combined such as hydro, wind, solar etc. Chinese people mainly travel via electric scooter, electric trains, electric vehicles or now growing in number: electric driverless buses.

2. China is the world leader in nuclear technology and coal technology and has enough reserves to power china industries for generations.

3. China will increase purchases of oil (if required) from Russia, Kazahstan, Brazil etc and China has the money to pay for it if its worth the cost.

4. At present China has a few billion barrels of oil in strategic reserves and will be used if required to transition from one power source to another.

5. China has successfully operated and installed the thorium reactor to the energy grid and has more nuclear reactor stations in development than rest of the world combined.

So..yes if the oil supply in Iran/Gulf suddenly stopped China will be impacted, however China will not be nearly as impacted as less developed nations whom don't have access to mass clean energy, nuclear energy and coal/oil reserves. Western nations will also likely to be impacted more due to heavier reliance on petrol as well.

Yes this is a great post, the oil weapon I think is not what it was



Try and look at things generally from a net assessment, net assessment is encompassing many many factors

 

[Aziqbal]

The Supreme Leader did not want to go to the shelter, and neither did the Defence Minister or the Chief of Army Staff. It's ridiculous to believe that

22 Tomahawks were flying over Syria 20 mins before and social media knew it

the Supreme leader has plenty of time to take cover

but their ideology is different want to die a martyr

 

[Cash gk]

Oil tankers started getting hit

 

[Viet]

see the ridiculous results brother.

Israel reports they killed more than 40 Iran political and military leaders in the first strike.
Something goes wrong with the Iran army.

 

[Samurai]

Except you can argue that from the other side as well. Killing US soldiers can make the backlash against Trump even larger given this war is already not very popular with the public and is seen as completely unnecessary. Not to mention this would also give more ammo to his own base of MAGA supporters that voted for him on the assumption of not starting any more wars.

So Iran absolutely needs to kill as many US soldiers as possible, it would help them put pressure against Trump, not help him drum up more support for it.

I said this earlier, if Iran can mange to sink even one US navy ship which will result in casualties, then the narrative inside US will shift significantly and faster, because many in US are already against Trump's policies especially more wars in the ME.

 

[Hayabusa]

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Another legend bites the dust. This is not looking good.

 

[925boy]

Iran's response won't be a single large barrage it will be small continuous waves imo

Yeaa

I mean, there are at least spirits living in Iranians that I see- their westernized side and Afghanistan side. The Afghanistani genie has come out of the Iranian bottle and no one knows when it will return back into the bottle.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

UK has two bases there and have fighters helping to defend the Zios

doesnt kier have enough things bad at home.. i mean 15% approval yikes

 

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[r3alist]

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Another legend bites the dust. This is not looking good.

A truly Iranian leader