Türkiye unveils exclusive details of future TF-2000-class destroyer

[Antonius123]

It's no joke. Embraer has produced and delivered over 8k aircrafts. How many the mighty dragon has produced and delivered?

Do you know that China and Russia/USSR have been embargoed by West to purchase critical parts and technology from West and ally after WW2?

Embraer send more planes with focus on niche market (regional jets) but they can't build the narrow-body or single-aisle airliner ones like C919/Boeing 737/Airbus A320 yet.

 

[MMM-E]

They have produced most kind of planes while most from Turkiye are still in development even in drawing.

All Turkish aviation Projects are realized
in mass production or made the first flight

Turkish aviation Industry is already in top league .... just 10 years were enough to do it

 

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Do you know that China and Russia/USSR have been embargoed by West to purchase critical parts and technology from West and ally after WW2?

That means without Western technology China can not develop Passanger Plane

 

[Pioneer]

Than answer this very simple question. Since you're so willing to compare us to Brazil, I ask you how many passenger aircrafts have the Chinese built and delivered? It's a very simple question.

calm. my friend. Stay sane. Learn from Brazil to manufacture at least one passenger aircraft. This doesn’t make you feel undignified...... As long as Türkiye can build a passenger aircraft. At least you beat Japan and South Korea.

 

[Pioneer]

That means without Western technology China can not develop Passanger Plane

Something more interesting. Some countries have Western/NATO technology. But it can't build at least one passenger jet.

 

[lacy]

calm. my friend. Stay sane. Learn from Brazil to manufacture at least one passenger aircraft. This doesn’t make you feel undignified...... As long as Türkiye can build a passenger aircraft. At least you beat Japan and South Korea.

Do you really that detached from aerospace to suggest to hop on developing passenger planes without bringing the industry and the human capital to be able to support the program.

Besides, countries have different priorities set by their own unique circumstances. You think you can insult us by comparing to Brazil. When have the Chinese become so arrogant to have enough clearance to belittle others? Do I really need to bring up the chart that shows 757485 different Western companies you're getting help from to put C-919 together? Is that really necessary?

 

[MMM-E]

Something more interesting. Some countries have Western/NATO technology. But it can't build at least one passenger jet.

We dont need Passenger Plane first
Turkiye buying Passanger Planes from Boeing and Airbus

We need Stealth Fighter Jets first
And Turkiye was become the 4th Country in the world with the 5th gen KAAN Fighter Jet after USA. Russia and China

And Turkiye was become the 2nd Country in the world with KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with USA

Even USA doesnt have unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
Its a Loyal Wingman


Turkiye is the 1st Country in the world that developed unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

 

[Antonius123]

That means without Western technology China can not develop Passanger Plane

That is logical fallacy.

Without western technology will only slow down the development for developing country like China, but doesnt mean will prevent China to develop passanger plane.

Western technology will help China/Russia get flight certification which are controlled by western countries.

And to be competitive none country even US develop passanger plane 100% based on her own technology.

 

[Pioneer]

Do you really that detached from aerospace to suggest to hop on developing passenger planes without bringing the industry and the human capital to be able to support the program.

Besides, countries have different priorities set by their own unique circumstances. You think you can insult us by comparing to Brazil. When have the Chinese become so arrogant to have enough clearance to belittle others? Do I really bring up the chart that shows 757485 different Western companies they're getting help from to put C-919 together? Is that really necessary?

my friend. Why do you think comparing Türkiye and Brazil. Is this an insult to Türkiye? How arrogant is this?

what makes you so sensitive and vulnerable？

As some members said. Türkiye is a member of NATO. Türkiye has advanced Western technology. wait. Why can't Türkiye build a simple regional airliner?

Or let me provide a link/video to show you. Türkiye wants to buy JF-17 and J-10C. TEI Want to choose WS-10?

my friend. What are you arrogant about? What are you sensitive to?

believe in yourself. You could use Western/NATO technology to build a simple regional airliner. Can you build any aircraft on your own?.... It’s not about “priorities”. But it is related to the level of technological development. Isn't it?

 

[Antonius123]

All Turkish aviation Projects are realized
in mass production or made the first flight

Turkish aviation Industry is already in top league .... just 10 years were enough to do it
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Not 100% true. KAAN just first flied recently, meaning still in development like J-20 in 2010, so still long way to be in operational. The engine is still underpowered.

Kizilelma has been introduced recently not in operational yet, still in development also.

Yes agree Turkey is in top league in aviation industry, but not in par yet with France or UK as they can build large passenger planes with Airbus, advanced in engine technology (Rolls royce, Snecma, Safrant, Eurojet), and is developing 6th gen fighters.

 

[lacy]

my friend. Why do you think comparing Türkiye and Brazil. Is this an insult to Türkiye? How arrogant is this?

what makes you so sensitive and vulnerable？

As some members said. Türkiye is a member of NATO. Türkiye has advanced Western technology. wait. Why can't Türkiye build a simple regional airliner?

Or let me provide a link/video to show you. Türkiye wants to buy JF-17 and J-10C. TEI Want to choose WS-10?

my friend. What are you arrogant about? What are you sensitive to?

believe in yourself. You could use Western/NATO technology to build a simple regional airliner. Can you build any aircraft on your own?.... It’s not about “priorities”. But it is related to the level of technological development. Isn't it?

yeah yeah. you answered your question yourself. Now go to sleep peacefully

 

[MMM-E]

Not all. KAAN just first flied recently, meaning still in development like J-20 in 2010, so still long way to be in operational. The engine is still underpowered.

20 KAAN will be delivered to the Turkish Air Force in 2028
just 4 years

and 2 x 29.500 lbs Engines are enough for speed of mach 1.8

Turkiye focused on BVR combat with stealthy , powerful AESA Radar and long range BVR missile

Turkish Engine will have 35.000 lbf

 

[Pioneer]

Not 100% true. KAAN just first flied recently, meaning still in development like J-20 in 2010, so still long way to be in operational. The engine is still underpowered.

Kizilelma has been introduced recently not in operational yet, still in development also.

Yes agree Turkey is in top league in aviation industry, but not in par yet with France or UK as they can build large passenger planes with Airbus, advanced in engine technology (Rolls royce, Snecma, Safrant, Eurojet), and is developing 6th gen fighters.

Even the concept of combat drones first came from China.

AVIC Dark Sword - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[MMM-E]

Kizilelma has been introduced recently not in operational yet, still in development also.

KIZILELMA enter mass production in 2024

Official Website

https://baykartech.com/en/press/serial-production-of-baykars-drone-set-to-begin-in-2024/

China doesnt have a prototype

 

[Antonius123]

We dont need Passenger Plane first
Turkiye buying Passanger Planes from Boeing and Airbus

We need Stealth Fighter Jets first
And Turkiye was become the 4th Country in the world with the 5th gen KAAN Fighter Jet after USA. Russia and China

And Turkiye was become the 2nd Country in the world with KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with USA

Even USA doesnt have unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
Its a Loyal Wingman
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Turkiye is the 1st Country in the world that developed unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
View attachment 26764

US has Kratos XQ-58 Valkyrie(2016)
China has FH-97A(2022) and MD-22(2022) and AVIC Dark Sword(2006)

The difference is China has less publication than Turkiye in military plane development.