Türkiye unveils exclusive details of future TF-2000-class destroyer

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We dont know whether it is more/less excellent than those used by China for J-20 or US for F-35.

Our TAI very well knows abou the KAAN
Therefore they say KAAN is ruler of sky
We needs only 35.000 lbf next gen Engine until 2030 .... nothing else

KAAN is not heavy fighter like F-22, KAAN is intended to replace light fighter F-16. KAAN should be light or medium fighter at best.

KAAN is 21 m monster and far bigger than F-22

 

[MMM-E]

Abundance of Money and talent pool (and experience too) belong to China and US, not Turkiye.

And real projects belong to Turkiye

we dont care about Chinese paper projects

 

[Pioneer]

Turkey’s Fighter Jet Dilemma: Exploring China’s JF-17 Thunder Amidst NATO Setbacks

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[retaxis]

Its nothing to do with more money
Its to do with technology

France Germany Italy still could not develop even EUROMALE UAV
Turkiye ahead of China and Europe in unmanned technology

and Turks have more talent than Chinese
give us 230 billion defense budget and see what will happen

just 20-40 billion defense budget but we Turks fighting with USA China in technology

You are far behind China and US in UAV tech. That is the real truth. Your government tells the world about ur tech because erdogan is trying to deviate from economy collapse and brainwash population that they are actually doing well. China/US will not reveal what they got but you can bet they got much better and advanced stuff than turkey since they have been in the game far longer with far larger resources.

The only thing Turkey has done is make some TB2s and sold most of them to countries like niger, mali, somalia etc who can not afford better systems. You have done nothing more than that.

If you want to learn, the future of drone warfare is already being dominated by China. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidh...-not-supposed-to-be-a-weapon/?sh=53f5416f2b56

DJI, based in Shenzhen, China, dominate the consumer drone industry with an estimated 70%+ of the global market. World drone leaders DJI have just launched their new FlyCart 30 cargo transporter on the international market, saying it “ushers in new era of dynamic aerial delivery.” It could do a lot more than that. The FlyCart’s biggest impact may be on the battlefield as a heavy drone bomber, gunship, minelayer and logistics vehicle, despite all DJI’s efforts to prevent military use of their products.

 

[retaxis]

And real projects belong to Turkiye

we dont care about Chinese paper projects

All your posts are about Turkish paper projects that have not or never materialised. 90% of ur posts are about paper projects so are you speaking out of shame ?

 

[Pioneer]

And real projects belong to Turkiye

we dont care about Chinese paper projects

You can't call CGI a "real project". KAAN flew briefly for only a few minutes. TF-2000 does not exist.

At present, Turkey is still seeking F-16/J-10C/JF-17.

 

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The only thing Turkey has done is make some TB2s and sold most of them to countries like niger, mali, somalia etc who can not afford better systems. You have done nothing more than that.

Turkish AKINCI is the best UCAV in the World which fired Cruise Missiles and Supersonic Missiles
and equippied AESA Radar ..... soon to fire Air to Air Missiles to kick enemy UCAVs

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American MQ-9 armed with only 12-25 km missile and guided bomb
Chinse WING LOONG-2 armed with only 10-20 km missile and guided bomb

and 36 Countries bought Turkish UCAVs including Pakistan Indonesia Polland S Arabia Ukraine Azerbaijan Qatar Maleysia

and dozens of Countries on the way

 

[MMM-E]

You can't call CGI a "real project". KAAN flew briefly for only a few minutes. TF-2000 does not exist.

At present, Turkey is still seeking F-16/J-10C/JF-17.

Go and dream on CGI .. so called Chinese unmanned Fighter Jets

Turkish KIZILELMA enter mass production as of 2024

 

[retaxis]

Future of warfare is in 100million dollar 6th gen UCAV/jet fighter and cheap drones used by infantry. China already dominates the infantry used drones and are close to 6th generation capability: Even cheap tb2s are useless on the battlefield and a waste of money for the results they bring e.g. easily shot down and cost millions. 100million dollar 6thgen UCAVs to dominate air superiority and tens of thousands of cheap DJI drones for bombing, mine laying, surveillance etc. That is the future and there is no room for anything in between.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidh...-not-supposed-to-be-a-weapon/?sh=53f5416f2b56

DJI, based in Shenzhen, China, dominate the consumer drone industry with an estimated 70%+ of the global market. World drone leaders DJI have just launched their new FlyCart 30 cargo transporter on the international market, saying it “ushers in new era of dynamic aerial delivery.” It could do a lot more than that. The FlyCart’s biggest impact may be on the battlefield as a heavy drone bomber, gunship, minelayer and logistics vehicle, despite all DJI’s efforts to prevent military use of their products.

 

[Pioneer]

Go and dream on CGI .. so called Chinese unmanned Fighter Jets

Turkish KIZILELMA enter mass production as of 2024

Who knows who is dreaming.

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[NGAD IS THE BEST]

KAAN platform and RAM paint are excellent for stealth capability
We are waiting for next gen national turbofan Engine for true 5th gen capability as like F-35




F-22 has also 2 x 35.000 lbf Engines

but F-22 lacks IRST , EOTS , HMDS , DIRCM , 360° situational awareness

KAAN Fighter Jet
1-- new turbofan Engine from TR-MOTOR for 5th gen capability
2-- with AI-enhanced battlefield awareness ( 360° situational awareness with 4 AESA radars - sensor fusion with EOTS , IRST with unique configuration )
3-- high-capacity networking , AI, data fusion
4-- Artificial Intelligence Co-pilot
5-- Pilot Health Tracking
6-- DIRCM Directed Infrared Countermeasure System by high power LASER
7-- HMDS (Helmet Display System) with AI-enhanced battlefield awareness
8 --Increased-range BVR Missile (GOKHAN ramjet powered long range networked a2a missile )
9-- excellent EW capabilities with ASELSAN FEWS -- Fighter Electronic Warfare Suite

10 -- full data-to-decision (D2D) capability for multi-layered distributed team of diverse manned aircraft working in concert with unmanned types ( KAAN , ANKA-3, KIZILELMA )

Here your going troll mode again , we don't how much classified tech use by F-22, and your KAAN will nowhere close it most probably

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

not testing
but first delivery of 20 Jets for initial operational capability including BVR combat as of 2028-2030

Without much capability, no supercruise capability yes

 

[MMM-E]

Without much capability, no supercruise capability yes

F-35 also doesnt have supercruise capability

and in BVR combat .... supercruise capability doesnt matter

We develop KAAN for BVR combat

 

[MMM-E]

Here your going troll mode again , we don't how much classified tech use by F-22, and your KAAN will nowhere close it most probably

I am showing the reality only
We know what about F-22 which lacks IRST . EOTS . HMDS . DIRCM and without 360° situational awareness


40 kw BURFIS AESA Radar ( 2.000+ GaN T/R modules ) will be more powerful than 20 kw APG-77v1 AESA Radar ( 1,956 T/R GaAS modules )

It seems that the AESA radar field on KAAN is wider than that on the F-22.




in Avionic and electronics KAAN is superior to F-22

but in stealth technology F-22 has great advantage in engine and nozzle

KAAN will have full of stealth mode with new gen turbofan Engine


btw only USA has F-22
better worry about other Countries which lacks 5th gen Fighter project

 

[lacy]

I am showing the reality only
We know what about F-22 which lacks IRST . EOTS . HMDS . DIRCM and without 360° situational awareness


40 kw BURFIS AESA Radar ( 2.000+ GaN T/R modules ) will be more powerful than 20 kw APG-77v1 AESA Radar ( 1,956 T/R GaAS modules )

It seems that the AESA radar field on KAAN is wider than that on the F-22.
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in Avionic and electronics KAAN is superior to F-22

but in stealth technology F-22 has great advantage in engine and nozzle

Hold your horses. KAAN is not superior even to an A10 or a Spitfire. Why? Because it's only a very early prototype. It's nowhere near to become a product. Your sentences are always in future tense and are extremely provocative.

I'm not sure why your constant ridiculing is allowed in this forum. It brings the quality so much down. Just give the most up-to-date information and let the readers draw their conclusions from it.