Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

  • United States (SPR): Holds the largest emergency supply, with a capacity of up to 727 million barrels, often used to stabilize global markets.

Well true, but Russia can just increase production no? They will not have a probkem with that is oil prices surge and of course it avoid tankers going through mid east.

Hopefully things will end before it gets to that level
 
China seeing the US exhaust itself (again!) in the Middle East will not lose sleep over the supply disruption....
Problem for China is that they are quite dependent on the oil flowing from that region. The US exhausting itself is also debatable because each such war results in the MIC in the United States raking in billions and trillions in follow-on orders, replenishment etc.

Yet another war being fought to bring absolute Zionist hegemony in the Middle East. The Gulf is essentially trading in Iranian influence/threats to their monarchies for Zionist hegemony and patronage.
 
Poor China too - China has a lot to lose financially too with the disruption to shipping lanes, oil and gas. That being said, they have much larger strategic reserves compared to China.

Not to mentioned they have been sitting very quietly on the sidelines..
 
Iran is not fighting 'everyone' if you imply Arab countries. Bases in Arab countries or infra in Arab countries which are helping the attacks on Iran. But that's essentially fighting only America and Israel, and maybe a few Western countries, if you think about it. Arab countries are not launching missiles on Iran and they probably will not.
Related to his, I think Pakistan and Turkey are playing their roles to convey messages between Iran and Arab countries to not go to open wars against each other.

Okay then. Iran is only fighting two countries. Let us see how that goes any better. Many more countries are not exactly in Iran's camp, that is for sure.
 
They see "It's Haram" written in the clouds behind.
Thanks to NK nuclear program, It's Haram for USA to bomb them.

I wonder how a nuclear weapon can be Haram or Halal, like a knife, it would depend about what you use for.

Bomb a carrier that it's bombing you is Haram?
 
Problem for China is that they are quite dependent on the oil flowing from that region. The US exhausting itself is also debatable because each such war results in the MIC in the United States raking in billions and trillions in follow-on orders, replenishment etc.

Yet another war being fought to bring absolute Zionist hegemony in the Middle East. The Gulf is essentially trading in Iranian threats for Zionist hegemony.

Yes, but look at what 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan did to US R&D for high end convnetional weapons.

After this US will spend billions (as you rightfully point out) simply restocking. China continues tio invest in R&D....
 
It is still too early to tell.

The surviving Iranian leadership basically have three choices at this point: stay the course till the end, change course and arrive at a settlement that allows the same theocratic setup to continue, or capitulate.

What they choose will determine what they regard as a viable outcome.
#2 is the most likely outcome. They will survive, battered and bruised, having inflicted some damage and this issue will limp along.
 
Nothing more than words, and Baidu and satellite imagery, the same as before.
Well yes good observation, everything on the forum is kind of words.

My point was do you believe Iran is facing more adversaries than expected? So far it seems they have intended to fight this war as they expect, I do not make a judgment on future outcomes.
 
The US exhausting itself is also debatable because each such war results in the MIC in the United States raking in billions and trillions in follow-on orders, replenishment etc.

Also they test new versions of weapons.

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Yes, but look at what 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan did to US R&D for high end convnetional weapons.

After this US will spend billions (as you rightfully point out) simply restocking. China continues tio invest in R&D....
Pros and cons on both sides. The US did not need to fight this war, but Israel had to have it.
 
Thanks to NK nuclear program, It's Haram for USA to bomb them.

I wonder how a nuclear weapon can be Haram or Halal, like a knife, it would depend about what you use for.

Bomb a carrier that it's bombing you is Haram?
Yes the Iranian leadership did not get nuclear weapons like Pakistan did. Now Iran is suffering.
 

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