Aftermath of the Iran-US war and its effects on proximities

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God forbid, if tomorrow Pakistan were to be in the same position as Iran, and the USA and Israel attacked Pakistan together with India — then my question is: suppose we have 3 to 5 years for preparations, what kind of defense readiness should Pakistan build, of course with assistance from China? So that we can minimize losses and push them back? For example, I think we would need 3 to 4 squadrons of J‑35AE along with 4–5 KJ‑500 aircraft. We would need good and plentiful anti‑ship missiles, and of course we would need a layered, fully covered air defense system. This is a hypothetical question, assuming we have no restrictions on money — so what all should we prepare, and what should we acquire from China?
 
Tariq Habib Afridi said:
God forbid, if tomorrow Pakistan were to be in the same position as Iran, and the USA and Israel attacked Pakistan together with India — then my question is: suppose we have 3 to 5 years for preparations, what kind of defense readiness should Pakistan build, of course with assistance from China? So that we can minimize losses and push them back? For example, I think we would need 3 to 4 squadrons of J‑35AE along with 4–5 KJ‑500 aircraft. We would need good and plentiful anti‑ship missiles, and of course we would need a layered, fully covered air defense system. This is a hypothetical question, assuming we have no restrictions on money — so what all should we prepare, and what should we acquire from China?
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Militarily you are secured.

It is your people that are your achilles heel.

PTI, Afghans, BLA types and Shia extremists most recently.

You are also slow to react to internal threats.

You must get your people on the same page. There is a time and place for politics.
 
Distant_Observer said:
Militarily you are secured.

It is your people that are your achilles heel.

PTI, Afghans, BLA types and Shia extremists most recently.

You are also slow to react to internal threats.

You must get your people on the same page. There is a time and place for politics.
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sorry i beg to differ.. we are weak miliatarily also and alot
 
omegalamba7xl9 said:
Just get comfortable really and come out and openly say that YOU ARE ANTI SHIA NOT ANTI IRAN... YOU DONT EVEN CONSIDER THEM MUSLIMS... IM SURPRISED AT YOU AND @MastanKhan The only country getting the beatjng is the bad guy and all the GCC have become ahly e bait??? Are you serious? The guy gave his life and his family life and people like you have nothing but crying like a village woman..... Let Iran do what they like... I think they have done a better job than many EPISTEN infected mullahs of GCC...
Fck taliban and their ideology where they stop women from going to school... Same ideology shared by Israeli blowing up schools killing kids... Like pussies

An ideology which have more Muslim blood on their hands than any other nation except US and Israel.... Guess which ideology is that... Al qaeeda... ISIS .... Taliban....wow what's common in all of them .... And they love killing innocent just like their cousin Jewish/Zionist ideology... You can see them you recognize them and then you protect them... Hypocrites of modern times...
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One thing must now be clear to every Muslim: all those clerics or leaders who divide Muslims through sectarianism or incite them to fight one another, as well as organizations like Al‑Qaeda, ISIS, and the Taliban that consider killing other Muslims permissible, are agents of Zionism — whether directly or indirectly. They serve the interests of Zionists. While we may have certain differences in creed or worldly matters, we must respond with tolerance, using decent, logical, and respectful words. Above all, we must remain united for the overall peace and well‑being of Muslims in Muslim countries.
 
EugeneP said:
Your criticism sounds very harsh, while being generally accurate. You left out an important aspect: Iran's proclivity to invent enemies and go to war based on trivial reasons. They spent a decade and lost a million souls, many young children, in the Iran-Iraq war over hardly any reason at all. The official reason stated was some dispute over toll charges on using a shared river. But that is like saying I killed someone because of difference of opinion on proper pizza toppings.
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Hi,

Mullahs have never ruled a muslim nation in the past---. They are clueless as what to do and what needs to be done to build a nation and its defensive and offencive force---.

The only they can do is to pass an edict---rile up the masses.

these things donot succeed.

The europeans also found that out that preachers are a failure---. The crusaders failed when the religious call was made to take back jerusalem---.

Tactics---strategy---connivance---larceny worked in the end---.

The example is front of all the muslims---may they be Iranian or be pakistan or from the middle east---.
 
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MastanKhan said:
Hi,

This is the 2nd part---shorter---.

Now take into consideration the case of Pakistan's nuc and weapons program.

We had a SHIA leader---Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto---.

What was the primary goal of his admin---. To make pakistan a nuclear state---and he made it possible by getting the fiancial aid from all corners of the musliom world---called pakistani scientis from all over the world---gave them a task to make pakistan proud & strong.

Our next leader was a Sunni leader---Gen Zia Ul Haq---.

The secrecy of our program stil stayed the same with the same enegy---commitment and efficiency regardless of all the stress and duress.

He got the americans entagled in the afghan war---got the F16's and a plethora of weapons.

Next comes another Shia leader---Benazir Bhutto---daughter of Zulfiqar Bhutto---.

What did she give us---. Gave us long range ballistic missiles and missile technology---.

Then another most important thing that she gave us was the Agosta 90B submarines---the most advanced subs in the region for many a year.

What I am saying here is that Zufi Bhutto---a civilian was a trained administrator ---he knew what it took to make a nation strong when there is an enemy 5 times the size across the boundary line.

Zia ul Haq was a genaral and obviously his training in defending the nation has has no doubts.

Then last but not the least---Benazir Bhutto---with the ballistic missile program and submarines.

The one thing in common between all these leaders was---they were not yelling threats---they kept a low key---our enemy were always in doubt of our capabilities---.

Our enemies never knew till the last moment as to how capable we were---either when we did a nuc blast---or launched the LR ballistic missiles---or in Feb 2019 or during the conflict in may 2025---.

Our enemy was kept TOTALLY BLIND to what our assets were till the day came for them to find out---and the surprise they got---it was for the world to see.

So---the bottomline---an Imam---a Mullah---a prayer leader cannot do that---a preacher cannot do that---. He is not TRAINED or this job---.

They donot have the tact---the tenacity---the conniving and felonious thinking and personalty needed to plan this deep against the enemy to prepare for the final conflict to come out ahead---.

Their only solution is to call for Jihad and throw as many bodies into the hellfires of war---.

Well that worked in the Iraq war of the 80's when a massive number of Jihadis layed down their lives for the cause---.

But then the enemy has developed larger methods of destruction that can easily take out as many soldiers you throw at them---now what---?
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Alfaaz o ma'ani mean Tafarak nahi par Mullay ki Azan aur hai Mujahid ki azan aur hai

Parwaz aik hi fiza mein hai, par Shaheen ka jahan aur hai kirgiz ka jahan aur hai

Others have had this thought before you.
 
Zulfi, while sitting in the UK has more morals.
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very interesting ... Saqa ji ka karnama ..

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HAIDER said:
very interesting ... Saqa ji ka karnama ..

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Somebody said it was an old tweet? did he blab something nauseous again?
 
Goenitz said:
Somebody said it was an old tweet? did he blab something nauseous again?
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he started again ....lolll ...recent speech in parliament, I am surprise how people listen there funny bs in parliament ...
 
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