Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

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[Mobius]

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[Tabmachine]

Iranians are arrogant and refused to play the game
That's why none of their allys are showing up

After the war they need to go back to the drawing board and make peace with Gulf Arabs or else forget pak even China wouldn't help
They'll be isolated

It all goes back to how no one wants to piss of Gulf Arabs not the Chinese, not the Russian nor Pakos although since we're islamist we'll have some sensitivities but at the end of the day you have to play the game
You're not living in an island

My older post
""IF" the government in Iran survives, they need to have some serious trust-building exercises with GCC arabs

Because I feel China is a bit hesitant to provide serious weaponry to Iran as they still want a good relationship with GCC Arabs and they feel that if they arm the current Iranian government in any meaningful way it might piss of GCC arabs to such an extent that they won't be able to make inroads with the Gulf monarchies for the foreseeable future

They don't want that risk

And a lot of people are talking about building up Iran's nuclear program, well as long as GCC arabs are against it Iran wont be able to make its nuclear weapons in peace where they'll provide full support to israeli, American bombings

Hell I think with our saudi pact, someday god forbid, and I say that very seriously, as it'd be very counterproductive for the region

Even we might have to get involved on the wrong side at least passively.

When the war is over its essential for Iran to have a better relationship with GCC arabs or else itll be more of the same for Iran as far as its isolation is concerned."

The GCC is not a political or military factor to the extent you are portraying it. The Chinese value their trade relationship with the GCC no doubt, but it is not Iran's "relationship-management" rather the fact that it is not integrated into the same system of control as them, and militarily threatening. You should observe that Israel does not face any such impediments to trade and military cooperation despite having a similarly belligerent stance.

Additionally, moderating their relationship with Iran also has to do with not wanting to attract too much of the ire of international Jewish forces that heavily influence the system of international trade. China has not yet successfully built a parallel system, so it navigates the same pressures as everyone else.

The GCC Arabs only have two vector's by which to influence the world around them: the sale of their natural resources, and the deployment of the financial proceeds from those sales to economically weak and desperate countries (i.e. Pakistan, to a lesser extent Turkiye). Outside of that, neither their current overseers in US/Israel or their trading partners, need to significantly incorporate them into any geopolitical calculation.

Iran cannot improve its position by improving bilateral relations with the GCC. The only relationship that can relieve its short-term lack of flexibility is that with US/Israel, who impose those obstructions. That however would involve surrender.

You are right that the "playing the game" and "waiting it out" was the smart money, because the US is losing power, but Israel can also see that same writing on the wall and that is why they are pursuing this acceleration of their agenda. Soon this storm will also come to the countries that have been "playing the game".

 

[Falcon29]

Direct hit in Tel Aviv just moments ago

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[nahtanbob]

Starmer should be happy. Trump could have said U.K. is a tiny country and Governor Starmer should make U.K. into 53rd (or 54th ...) State. And that he may like to take it someday one way or other.

I know Canada is 51st. Who is the 52nd?

 

[Hayabusa]

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[PK781]

Direct hit in Tel Aviv just moments ago

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Picture shows tel aviv still in good shape….? Where r the drones and missiles from iran?
Should’ve flattened it all by now

 

[Falcon29]

Picture shows tel aviv still in good shape….? Where r the drones and missiles from iran?
Should’ve flattened it all by now

Iran has fired around 200 missiles at Israel since war. Israel shot down plenty maybe 180-190.

In 12 day war Iran fired around 700. Once Iran passes 300-400 mark, Israeli interception rate will go down progressively.

Question is does Iran have capacity at this point as US-Israeli strikes targeting those capabilities have been extensive

 

[Tamerlane]

At this point, anything is possible and no body knows the future.

Maybe Qayamat is around the corner.

My own analysis is that this war will likely to end with a stalemate with both sides declaring victory. That would mean that US/Israel will fail to achieve their objective of instigating regime change in Iran or turning it into a Syria.

After the war, I predict that there will be regime changes in many countries in the Middle East, with US/Israeli puppets being overthrown and replaced with good Muslim governments. An alliance of Muslim countries will be formed. I hope that at least 4 Muslim countries will have nuclear weapons, including Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey. The fourth one could be an Arab country that is not a US/Israeli puppet. Four Muslim nuclear powers to match four Judeo-Christian nuclear powers--US, UK, France, Israel.

Then in a few years a united US/Israel/NATO will launch another mega attack. This will be WW3 and the last war between Muslims and the Judeo-Christians. Both sides will suffer massive damage, but no one will be able to claim victory. A peace treaty will be signed to end the war.

Up to this stage, Israel will still exist and will be ruled by their Moshiach. This Israel will be attacked by the rest of the world and Israel will cease to exist. The West will be gone. The main powers in the world of the future will be the Islamic civilization and China.

This US/Israeli war on Iran is critical to set up events for the future. Iran is fighting a battle on behalf of all 2 billion Muslims on the planet and all Muslims should support it.

PS: It's just my opinion and I could be wrong.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Hayabusa]

Iran has fired around 200 missiles at Israel since war. Israel shot down plenty maybe 180-190.

In 12 day war Iran fired around 700. Once Iran passes 300-400 mark, Israeli interception rate will go down progressively.

Question is does Iran have capacity at this point as US-Israeli strikes targeting those capabilities have been extensive

Agreed. And by that time. There is no need to always keep launching ballistic missiles. Once the interception decrease. Flock of Shahed drones will starts flattening. It's only the beginning.

The fact that Iran has capitulated despite the heaviest fighting in the first 4 days, is a good sign.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Zion has a population of 10.1 million people. Of those, 1.8 million are Russians.

Russia will not provide any such military capability to Iran that can harm its 1.8 million Russian people.

What the vast majority of Muslims miserably fail to realise is that israeli jews and russisns are ESSENTIALLY the SAME people. They are BOTH white eastern european people who have the same dna and racial origin. Why would they chose a brown-Muslim Egyptian or Iranian over their own kindred? When will Brown/Olive-skinned Muslims start accepting this reality?

 

[Al-Zakir]

Fun fact: 70% Jews are allergic to olive tree.

 

[Tabmachine]

What the vast majority of Muslims miserably fail to realise is that israeli jews and russisns are ESSENTIALLY the SAME people. They are BOTH white eastern european people who have the same dna and racial origin. Why would they chose a brown-Muslim Egyptian or Iranian over their own kindred? When will Brown/Olive-skinned Muslims start accepting this reality?

i dont think its as much some kind of Slavic solidarity, but that many of the "oligarchs" of Russia are Jewish.