Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

bengalcdn said:
Yes like in caves near the shore, I think some Iranian members here can share more light
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So, you admit you are making it up and hoping the Iranian members will confirm?

Do you not think for a moment that if Iran has these secret underground bases, chances are the US already knows where they are located or at least most of them? Further, the US happens to be pretty good at pin-point precision strikes. The mouth of a cave is just a warm up.
 
mangekyo said:
It’s used as a tactic to pressure the government and push the armed forces to surrender.
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Any opposing forces that Iran puts up will learn their lesson directly. It will be up to them to decide howe long they wish to put up a fight.
 
StrategicBear said:
Umm, because those bases are already destroyed from repeated Iranian BM strikes? How can they return to a place already in ruins? And the moment they come back, the soldiers becomes mincemeat due to another round of drone/BM attacks.
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It is doubtful these bases have been 100% destroyed. From the photos I've been seeing, it is only select buildings.
 
M. Sarmad said:
It depends on perspective...

Beyond sectarian lines and geopolitical chessboards, many Muslims see Iran as standing where it it must... refusing to bow to the Taghut/forces of evil.... facing a far stronger force, fully aware that defeat or death may follow...

This is not mere politics but echo the lingering pulse of Battle of Karbala, where the measure of a stand is not victory, but the refusal to kneel to Evil ...
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Of course, I fully respect Iran's right and determination to chart its own path, wherever it might lead.
 
j_hungary said:
Well, Trump may run out of patience and nuke Iran himself if we are talking about "may" or "may not"........Who knows, he is crazy enough to do it, so it "may" happen.

The issue here is what Iran can achieve by lobbing missiles in the Middle East or Israel? Well, we had heard a lot about what the US can achieve by sending missiles to Iran, but nobody put the same question in reverse. So what exactly can Iran achieve here?

To start, Israel is not going to just go away, regardlessof how many missiles or drones Iran lob at them, you either have to be extremely naive or extremely stupid (or both) to believe otherwise. The fight is always on, whether or not Iran will fold, because I know for a fact if Iran can actually push Israel to the point they are at the brink of collapsing, they are going to nuke everyone. Isn't it is the exact reason why iran want nuclear weapons in the first place to begin with?

So, what change? Let's wait for the next time IDF or Trump have an itch on their arse and lob some missile at them, and call it successful when it all returns to this status quo? It didn't feel like a win to me if you ask me.
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Oh, you are suggesting nukes options as a sign you are agreeing that US / Israel cannot defeat Iran conventionally ? I agree!

I wonder why you asked what Iran wants to achieve by lobbying missiles at Israel. Its Israel which has attacked Iran every single time, what do you want Iran to do? if not kill Israelis in return? Life comes to stand still, million dollars interceptors are fired, and sometimes missile do penetrate and hit facility or kill Israelis. Iranians take their revenge which anyone would do.

Anyways, Israel is an artificial colonial outpost. Its survival is only possible because of US / west backing. We don't even need to nuke Israel. Not today, but its end is inevitable, "so much for its not going anywhere". China's inevitable rise is happening in front of everyone, its rapidly advancing to become a super power, the day US can no longer hold the weight of Israel's crimes (due to other priorities), it will be decline for Israel and in that situation if it gets into war against Turkey or Iran all you will see Israeli population fleeing. They came via ships and will leave as soon it will become unlivable and no super power behind its back. Even today, when US is fully supporting it and they both are doing joint attacks Israel is vulnerable.
 
j_hungary said:
Well, Trump may run out of patience and nuke Iran himself if we are talking about "may" or "may not"........Who knows, he is crazy enough to do it, so it "may" happen.

The issue here is what Iran can achieve by lobbing missiles in the Middle East or Israel? Well, we had heard a lot about what the US can achieve by sending missiles to Iran, but nobody put the same question in reverse. So what exactly can Iran achieve here?

To start, Israel is not going to just go away, regardlessof how many missiles or drones Iran lob at them, you either have to be extremely naive or extremely stupid (or both) to believe otherwise. The fight is always on, whether or not Iran will fold, because I know for a fact if Iran can actually push Israel to the point they are at the brink of collapsing, they are going to nuke everyone. Isn't it is the exact reason why iran want nuclear weapons in the first place to begin with?

So, what change? Let's wait for the next time IDF or Trump have an itch on their arse and lob some missile at them, and call it successful when it all returns to this status quo? It didn't feel like a win to me if you ask me.
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Remember the Iran VS USA/Israel conflict is not just about these 3 countries, it's about China too.

Imagine, if Iran and USA/Israel both nukes each other. China still remains unscathed and is poised to move on Taiwan after removing a major threat to the PLA. And all those Patriot Interceptors takes time to replace, now with China blocking rare earths. This is WW3 so you have to look at the big picture. China would be happy if US wastes more time trying to take down Iran as they can move on Taiwan easily when the US is distracted.
 
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