Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

j_hungary said:
You are running on 2 assumptions.

1.) GCC doesn't understand the risk when it offers its base to the US.
2.) Iran will "win" by playing a long game.

Well, GCC knows the risk when they offered their base to the US, it's not like "Oh, we don't know basingthe US fleet here in Bahrain will make someone attack us" Unless either all those GCC administrators are extremely incompetent, they know the risk involved, the issue here is why they ask the US to base their naval and air fleet in their country in the first place. That's already shown during the first Gulf War forward, when Jordanian land was attacked, and their pilot was actually and literally burned alive. The key is geopolitical cooperation. I can write an entire article on this, but I will just be short here. They needed the US presence in the region. Because of the trade route, until China or someone else can guarantee the security at sea, they will need the Ameircan present. And China is not interested in becoming the world Police.

Second point being, nobody would win, not Israel, not the US, and definitely not Iran, if we are playing the long game. First of all, what is winning? If by US win is an Iranian regime change, that may or may not happen, not holding my hopes up, if by Israel win, that means a destruction of Iran, then that's NOT going to happen. And if Iran wins, it's a destruction of Israel, that's not going to happen, or pushing the US out of the region? Well, that's not really up to them now, is it, and as long as Isreal exist, it's not going to happen, even if we are talking about remaining as it is, minding its own business, how's that a win for Iran?

Now the question is, what would Iran do? Hence, the dilemma I suggested. You want to keep attacking the US and Israel assets? If that is the way you try to go punch on punch, Iran is not going to get anywhere because they can't touch the US, even if you can neutralise Israel, US weapons in the region are just one month away. And trust me when I say it, with 11 aircraft carriers, sending a pair each, you can have 4 to 5 rotations that last a lot longer than 1 month. How about attacking other GCC nations and spreading it equally? Well, you may send fear to the GCC, and they stop supporting the US. Well, sure, never say never, but you have an equally, if not a better chance, to further piss off the GCC nation by bombing their country.
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This is not about risk

This is about the U.S CHOOSING to plunge the region and multiple countries into war, affecting multiple economies all for the benefit of Israel

The countries certainly knew the risks, but they expected that the presence of these bases would deter attack and preserve their regimes


What they didn't expect that the U.S out of nowhere would launch a destructive war, not caring one bit about their economies, states and welfare just for one Zionist tumor of a state

And not only that, but to spend treasure and effort to protect that ONE state whilst their countries suffered the fall out


Everyone called them stupid before and now they look retarded



The war itself is destructive, violent and brutal and many will die


But just like the Ukraine war, the Russians have lost a million men or whatever it is, they have spent so much that failure is not a option, so whatever happens they will go on until by hook or crook they get the result they want in Ukraine

The same as Iran
The war has been launched, the ayatollah has been killed and brutal attacks upon their people

Bending over now is pointless, it imperils the future of Iran and risks war again in a few years if not sooner

So whatever the costs, Iran best path is to absorb the attacks and pain and seek to destroy the U.S presence In the region

Get them out of Iraq
Target them on Syria and the GCC

Make the U.S presence a burden not a positive

Iranian military commentators, have stated that their objective will be to get to a point where A.D is under strain to stop any missiles or drones


Will they do it? I'm betting yes as a large state of 93 million but we will have to see
 
In regards to sinking of Dena who is the retard in charge of ordering this sub into international waters? She and her crew could be safe interned in india but no suicidal charge into enemy waters. This is why i always question the competency of iranian commanders
 
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RescueRanger said:
So you want to light the region on fire. Okay gotcha. Let me know how that works out.

I love you all but this won't work.
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well im not speaking to my wants, just trying to remain analytical. Iran is going to behave according to some strategic/tactical calulus, and I don't think trying to think in moral terms will really bring much clarity to ascertaining what that is.
 
If a failed Islamo-Marxist dysfunctional system with decades of crippling sanctions can achieve this much against 17 countries led by a hyperpower and a great power + 15 regional pups, what would have a fully functional Iran with proper leadership would have achieved.
 
RescueRanger said:
So you would exact collective punishment on the people of the GCC for what happened in Gaza. Well done.

Forgive me for feeling g disgusted!
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gcc are the only countries in the muslim world that could have stopped the genocide but they didnt say anything, not even a peep, instead they kept on investing trillions of dollars in american economy, the enablers of the gaza genocide.
 
RescueRanger said:
What threats? Attacking economic targets whilst Israeli bases are still safe and fully operational?

Please explain the logic, I promise I am open to listening and understanding how this helps Iranian war objectives.
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Cmon . Iran must not be viewed as the bad guy here when the actions of the USA and GCC are taken in to account. I’m sorry GCC countries cant complain. When they get bombed. If you have U.S bases, for them to launch attack , refuel , spy, whatever the hell they do murder Iranian children I’m sorry your fair game.
 
RescueRanger said:
So you want to light the region on fire. Okay gotcha. Let me know how that works out.

I love you all but this won't work.
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This can stop as soon as GCC tells the Americans to F off from their land. And sometimes I wonder if that might be what they want, but don’t have the balls to say? They know those bases will never protect them from the Zionists.

GCC are snakes and if they feel that China is the future, they would want to pivot to China.

So the question is, if you are GCC and want US base gone from your land, who better than Iran to outsource this operation to?
 
mangekyo said:
This can stop as soon as GCC tells the Americans to F off from their land. And sometimes I wonder if that might be what they want, but don’t have the balls to say? They know those bases will never protect them from the Zionists.

GCC are snakes and if they feel that China is the future, they would want to pivot to China.

So the question is, if you are GCC and want US base gone from your land, who better than Iran to outsource this operation to?
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Those bases are as much GCC sovereign territory as it is an American base. Iran cannot dictate to sovereign nations how they exercise their foreign policy
 
Foinikas said:
For those who don't know,this is not AI. It's an actual trireme ship,the Olympias.
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I think few navies have ceremonial ships like this one, including the USN. Pakistan Navy has the Rah Naward class, or I think they still have it. Looks ceremonial but used for sail training, from what I have heard.
 
mangekyo said:
Nothing justifies wanting your homes and families to be bombed.

You are the type of people who would justify raping your own mothers by saying «you have no idea how desperate we have become»

Or rape your own daughters and blame the wife for not giving you any.

This is your logic.

No wonder you’re the biggest fans of the Epstein class.
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dude go to the arabic coffe shop thread and read his comments :rofl: :rofl:

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