Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hussain0216]

The Arab states who sided with Israel and USA had it coming:

Surah al-Baqarah, Verse 120:

The Jews will never be pleased with you, nor will the Christians, unless you follow their faith. Say: “Guidance of Allah is, indeed, the guidance.” Were you to follow their desires despite the knowledge that has come to you, there shall be no friend for you against Allah, nor a helper.

Translation: T. Usmani

They even know this and STILL they allow bases and intelligence infrastructure and try to block strikes on the jews

 

[ToddE]

Yeah but they don't want a stable Iran on its future border either.

Most of our population esp the control classes is arrogant, narcissist, ego maniac type. The moment IRI is gone Iranian society will return to Shah like times. Jews know this so they are just removing the threat called IRI.

 

[ToddE]

Trump on the Iranian leadership:
They are wasting their time. Khamenei's son is a lightweight.
I have to be involved in the appointment, like with Delcy in Venezuela.
Khamenei's son is unacceptable to me.
We want someone that will bring harmony and peace to Iran.

how this man is the president of US is beyond me

Because he offered Ivanka to pedos on epstein island

Purchased eastern euro ho Melania from that very same island, she talked words as well when cued.

Is compromised to extremes.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I have to be involved in the appointment, like with Delcy in Venezuela.

Wow - talk about being deluded..

 

[BigMela2onin]

Most of our population esp the control classes is arrogant, narcissist, ego maniac type.

Yes agreed.

The moment IRI is gone Iranian society will return to Shah like times. Jews know this so they are just removing the threat called IRI.

Please expand on what you mean by this. I think they prefer if Iran stops existing first and foremost.

 

[VCheng]

I think coastal anti-ship batteries are more than enough, though. And drones.

There's the Abu Mahdi anti-ship cruise missile with 1000 km range, so that doesn't even have to be near the coasts, as they can be placed anywhere within the interior of Iran in "shoot-and-scoot" launchers.

Then there's the Hadid-110 stealth attack drones.

MashaAllah, that is great!

But all of that is nothing if not used effectively. May be now is a good time for that?

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Most of our population esp the control classes is arrogant, narcissist, ego maniac type. The moment IRI is gone Iranian society will return to Shah like times. Jews know this so they are just removing the threat called IRI.

aren't the zionist also have this traits? how come they became so powerful then?

 

[tsunset]

Trump on the Iranian leadership:
They are wasting their time. Khamenei's son is a lightweight.
I have to be involved in the appointment, like with Delcy in Venezuela.
Khamenei's son is unacceptable to me.
We want someone that will bring harmony and peace to Iran.

how this man is the president of US is beyond me

Just like Pahlavi, he lives in an alternate reality

 

[HAIDER]

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condemns attacks withought calling out iran .

According to media , source of those projectile unknown . Because situation is more worst when caught Israeli agents in KSA and UAE. Plus, they can detect from which direction projectile came.

 

[VCheng]

I think majority of people think this way. Everyone uses their ideology to determine what they say is good and evil and allot friends and foe accordingly.

Of course, but please note that all of that is in the personal domain, not the geopolitical domain.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Thats because you are biased minded, clouded by propaganda instead of focusing on actual results and numerical figures like following:

- Turkish Debt of almost 600 Billion USD (half their gdp) from Jews/Western creditor banks against owned by Zios. Hand that feeds the state and economy, controls the country.

- Turkish supply of 6 billion USD worth raw material and oil gas to Israel like a loyal servant while Sunni Arabs were passing through meat grinder of Israel. Not even EU was doing that for Israel what Erdogan did.

- Deliberate Turkish appointment of Sharra in Syria so hezbollah has no supply line from Iraq and Iran.

You want to neglect all that and "not be convinced" then be my guest. Numbers dont change.

The Syrian civil war is a whole messy topic.

As far as Turkey, like it or not, they know how to play the geopolitical game. You don’t run your mouth and antagonize your enemies until you are self sufficient. Turkeys weapons industry has grown exponentially over the past 20 years. It is and will be a bigger force to reckon with.

Iran calling U.S. and Israel Satan and making hostile threats only gave it sanctions and hindered the growth of Iran and its capabilities.

You have to play the geopolitical game to get what you want. It’s best to lay low and work on building your country. Play the long game.

 

[Meengla]

Thats because you are biased minded, clouded by propaganda instead of focusing on actual results and numerical figures like following:
- Turkish Debt of almost 600 Billion USD (half their gdp) from Jews/Western creditor banks against owned by Zios. Hand that feeds the state and economy, controls the country.
- Turkish supply of 6 billion USD worth raw material and oil gas to Israel like a loyal servant while Sunni Arabs were passing through meat grinder of Israel. Not even EU was doing that for Israel what Erdogan did.
- Deliberate Turkish appointment of Sharra in Syria so hezbollah has no supply line from Iraq and Iran.
You want to neglect all that and "not be convinced" then be my guest. Numbers dont change.

As I said, I am not convinced either side of the argument and I also think the militias and the countries change their policies rather quickly. Just look at the American reversal over JCPOA and that's a country which is supposed to have long term thinking.

Short term, the toppling of Assad did a grave harm to the Israel-Gaza conflict. Long term... who knows for sure but I am not ruling out Syria/Turkey will be hostile to Israel. We saw a video of the ex Israeli PM Naftali, who is likely to replace Netanyahu as the next PM, and who is concerned about the Turkish presence closer to Israel by the Sharrah takover.

BTW, since early 2010s in PDF, I was against the toppling of Assad and my posts are here to see. That's a 15 year history. You don't know me well enough.

 

[VCheng]

BTW, "America First', clearly too hidden to be visible to our eastern neighbour!

Yes, but that thread is two corridors down, then turn left and through the second set of double doors.

On topic, what is the main point regarding this present Iran war that you wish to make?

 

[ToddE]

Yes agreed.

Please expand on what you mean by this. I think they prefer if Iran stops existing first and foremost.

Fractured Iran will empower other countries with actual issues against Israel. Iranian society's extreme liberalism for a middle eastern country, arrogance, narcissism, ego mania is more suitable as core values then risking empowering some new power structure in the region.

 

[Mutakalim]

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Oil refinery was the target. Iran is going after the life line of Gulf that's why west is scrambling to defend. A much brutal and destructive form of 90s tanker war is coming to the region.