Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

good luck, with this approach!

You can send your wishes directly to the US or the Iranian military, whichever side you prefer, since I do not need any of it.

I hope that all casualties are minimized, particularly civilian, on all sides.

 

[PakFactor]

Yep, but there has to be some morality as a nation. Its exactly as theft and extortion.

Like I can go and snatch my neighbors property just because I have guns. Rule of engagements, international laws, intl orgs, everything is trampled by this evil US regime.

Mortality bends to necessity. The following is a very famous line in The Prince by Machiavelli:

"Hence it is necessary for a prince wishing to hold his own to know how to do wrong, and to make use of it or not according to necessity."

To understand the West, you have to read and read some more; its philosophical thought has been built over centuries.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Bro, unfortunately, this is a mis-reading of Zio-US.

They don’t care about current government and their policies but more the capability of a nation. Turkey has surrendered its foreign policy to the United States and has no energy resources and so can be controlled by economy.

Iran is large both physically and in terms of population and has its own energy reserves. The only way they would’ve left Iran alone is it became a complete vassal, but they would’ve never allowed it to have developed offensive missile capabilities to threatened the Zionist entity.

Yes, they were unwise to shout death to America/Zionist entity but to be honest it would not have made much difference to the amount of freedom they would’ve given Iran to develop as a sovereign nation.

We will see how it plays out, everyone acts in their own self interest.

I see it this way

Is it better to act like Turkey or being a North Korea cut off from the rest of the world?

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

You can send your wishes directly to the US or the Iranian military, whichever side you prefer, since I do not need any of it.

I hope that all casualties are minimized, particularly civilian, on all sides.

I sincerely hope so!

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Unknowntruth]

So what you are saying is that Turkey didn’t think the combined might of Iran + Iraqi resistance + Lebanese resistance + Syrian resistance + Yemeni resistance + Palestinians resistance who had surrounded Israel from all corners wasn’t a big enough threat to Israel? He had to help Mossad and CIA install a puppet there to cut the weapons supply, so Erdogan with his NATO and salafist army could defeat Israel?

Everyone acts within their own self interest. Look at Iran also playing a role in Yemen. Vast majority of Syrians disliked the Syrian regime whether you like it or not. Turkey is a Sunni country that choose to align with the majority who opposed Assad.

Assad had every opportunity to step down and transition power to avoid this blood shed. It was through Hezbollah and Iran that he even lasted this long.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

94% of Israeli Jews support the war against Iran.

 

[mangekyo]

Everyone acts within their own self interest. Look at Iran also playing a role in Yemen. Vast majority of Syrians disliked the Syrian regime whether you like it or not. Turkey is a Sunni country that choose to align with the majority who opposed Assad.

Assad had every opportunity to step down and transition power to avoid this blood shed. It was through Hezbollah and Iran that he even lasted this long.

Did he not create the chaos by training ISIS and Al-Qaida terrorists and send them to Syria? They even provided Isis material to gas Syrians. Turkey chose to take a side, with Israel of course.

And because you talk about «the vast majority» Doesn’t the vast majority of Sunni Palestinians dislike Israel? Turkey supplied Israel with energy and arms while Gaza was being genocided, and they still are btw. Taking sides with Israel as usual.

But go ahead and keep telling me how Turkey is going to destroy Israel

 

[Immortals]

I know but why would a secular republic need a liberal mullah leader for life? So the jews will give up on removing IRI?

First of all what is this nonsense about a “secular” republic. You are not getting a secular republic as long as IRGC control 40% of the apparatus of the economy.

You are not getting a secular republic as long as boots on the ground stay off the table.

Regime change via the air has never worked for a reason.

I don't think it is at all. It is one of the most important factors.

It is not. Bibi promised Trump a lot of things. Things that are now not materializing. If this war goes on for weeks and Iran is able to continue firing drones and missiles and causing damage then the financial interests of the world and the political viability of Republicans in mid terms will take precedent.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I think Pakistan and zionist israel are on a collision course, the sooner our establishment accepts it, the better our chances of survival.

Arm yourself to the teeth during times of peace because you dont get second chance once the sh*t starts to hit the fan.

of course, believing otherwise would living in a fool's world!

zios would question the hypothetical strength of such a relationship!

 

[Unknowntruth]

The problem with a lot of people is that they see everything as black and white. It’s not that simple, sometimes you have to bite your tongue and work with those whose interest maybe do not align or maybe even butt heads.

Geopolitics doesn’t care if you are a good guy or bad guy. You have to play the game to survive.

 

[Prince Hamoodi]

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[mangekyo]

The problem with a lot of people is that they see everything as black and white. It’s not that simple, sometimes you have to bite your tongue and work with those whose interest maybe do not align or maybe even butt heads.

Geopolitics doesn’t care if you are a good guy or bad guy. You have to play the game to survive.

Why don’t we start worshipping Baal and sell our souls to Israel so we can reap the benefits then? We need to draw the line somewhere, the line I draw starts and ends when you cross into Zionist territory

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I think Pakistan and zionist israel are on a collision course, the sooner our establishment accepts it, the better our chances of survival.

Arm yourself to the teeth during times of peace because you dont get second chance once the sh*t starts to hit the fan.

israelis have made it clear that they want to annihilate ALL brown/olive-skinned Muslim countries. After Iran it is Turkey than Pakistan on their hit list.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

️ Araghchi to Trump:

Your first plan to achieve a quick and clean military victory has failed, and your alternative plan will lead to an even greater failure.

️ Araghchi:

The opportunity to reach an agreement was lost after the “Israel First” group overshadowed the significant progress achieved in the negotiations.