Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

IRGC is doing commendable job, a great job fighting against Israel and US. But 15 more countries ?? LOL! Name those 15 countries. Defending against Iranian missiles is equivalent to attacking Iran ?

This Iranian behavior is forcing me to rethink who should I support in this war.

How much hatred you guys are filled with literally? Each and everytime you guys were attacked by Israel & US. But for some odd reasons you want to bomb Azerbaijan, Pakistan, all GCC countries, even Turkey. Why so much hatred against fellow muslim nations?

I know most of these countries don't have guts to stand up against US imperialism and US hegemony but that does not mean they are actively participating with their own militaries against Iran. No one wanted this war in the region except Israel and US.

15+ countries are giving their territory to the US military, this is a fact

those countries are not responding to Iran, which is good, our war is not with them

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Inflight refueling makes reaching anywhere in the world from Whiteman AFB perfectly possible, and has been done routinely for years and years.

Exactly how Midnight Hammer was executed.

 

[Meengla]

Diplomacy now in action

But on what grounds? 'Diplomacy' has been going on between Pakistan and Afghanistan forever but conflicts continue, diplomacy has been going on between Russia and Ukraine, but the conflict continues. Irreconcilable differences.
Same case in the war against Iran: The terms are irreconcilable and the circumstances that caused this conflict have not changed significantly yet on either side.

 

[mangekyo]

Unlikely that Mr Khamenei was the only one involved in those decisions. And those "proxies" are saving your rear end at this time by engaging Israel, US, Kurds, and the GCC. The regional strategy was correct, just never executed properly. Else I do agree that Iran needs reforms in its domestic and foreign policies.

There’s a strong faction in Iran that benefits from forever tension with US/Israel and sanctions. If you ask me, this is the reason why we never developed nukes or executed AoR properly.

 

[RescueRanger]

If you've been following some of the postings, there is enough tanker capacity currently in the region to support round the clock air operations.

I don't think they read the threads.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Zero surprise there. Saudi Arabia is the original base of the US in the middle east and remains a big part of their presence in the region. Saudis are simply discreet about it.

The US has had a presence in Bahrain since WWII.

 

[ToddE]

So, you mean IRGC won't care to attack islamic world? Then should Pakistan, Turkey, KSA, GCC gang up on Iran now ? Even better for our security then.

So please, Khamenei's policy for islamic brotherhood is the reason people in the region support Iran today. Nobody can tolerate Israel like mindset of attacking everyone. Israel do that because it directly controls super power of the world.

Countries are free to "gang up" if their creditors (Jews and necons) allow/direct them.

Also we are heretics, not mainstream muslims.

 

[mangekyo]

Is China actually helping Iran other than "nice words" ? If not, then why should Iran care?

I don’t think they are, but another great power putting pressure on us is not what we need right now.

 

[RocketLaw]

DAY 8. THIS IS GETTING WORSE, NOT BETTER.

Iran's missile and drone numbers from the last 8 days.

Look at the drones. Look carefully.

Ballistic Missiles:
Day 1 — 350
Day 2 — 175
Day 3 — 120
Day 4 — 50
Day 5 — 40
Day 6 — 32
Day 7 — 28
Day 8 — 15

Missiles are slowing down. Good news right?

Wrong. Now look at the drones:

Drone Swarms:
Day 1 — 294
Day 2 — 541
Day 3 — 200
Day 4 — increasing
Day 5 — increasing
Day 6 — increasing
Day 7 — increasing
Day 8 — STILL COMING

Here's what nobody is telling you:

→ Iran is SAVING its missiles
→ It's switching to cheap $20,000 drones instead
→ Each drone costs $20K to make
→ Each interception costs $1-2 MILLION
→ Do the math. Iran spends $20K. You spend $2M to stop it.
→ They can build these forever. Your defense budget can't.

Every single day:
→ More drones launched
→ More defense systems drained
→ More interceptor missiles burned
→ More money gone
→ More cities targeted

This is not a war of firepower.

This is a war of economics.

Iran is bleeding the US and its allies dry — $2 million at a time.

Day 8 and defenses are already thinning.

Day 15 — they could run out.

Day 30 — the skies go unprotected.

This isn't ending.

It's just getting started.

And the worst day hasn't come yet.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Trump back at his good old delusions again

I fear that outreach's by Iran to the USA for talks, are being perceived by Trump as weakness and defeat, and this is allowing Trump to think he is winning and doubling down on his demands. Another diplomatic mistake by Iran ( the list grows long I am afraid )

 

[RescueRanger]

Flow is constant.

 

[lightning f57]

Bro
Giving permission and allowing their land to be used as a launching pad is as good as firing the missiles. Thats why they become legitimate targets

Objectively speaking (I want the best for SA and other middle eastern nations), if any ME country is allowing the use of its airspace for any military flights which are being used as an act of aggression against Iran, those countries military bases and where these planes are operating from become legitimate targets. I know Pak has a defence pact with SA but even in this situation I doubt highly Pak will do anything.

 

[Olympus81]

Couple of points.

GCC countries are able to manufacture more gas and oil but there is no storage, as the current oil / gas is not able to be transported out due to the blockage of Straits of Hormuz.

Iran knows this hence blockage of Straits of Hormuz suffices.

Secondly, the air corridor in the Atlantic, and logistical support to Israel through the Mediterranean will be something Iran might look to target.

 

[Ali_Baba]

C'mon they aren't landing in open warzones to sit exposed while refueling. They land way outside and fly in rotations.

KC-46 refueler being refueled by another KC-46

There are so many hours they can fly partially due to crews and also flight servicing requirements, and when they are not, they are based at Ben Gurion and Cyprus.

 

[digitalSurgeon]

Destruction all the US European bases around Iran and make gcc countries bend towards Iran. Eliminate Israel or send it to stone ages.