Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Tabmachine
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Even if you step aside from Islam (which I do not underweigh at all, the Farsi contribution there is immense and precious), the foundations to the administrative approach that was adopted by the Seljuk and subsequently Ottoman empire were put in place by the political genius Nizam Al-Mulk. This is why these empires alongside the Safavid Empire must necessarily be categorized as "Turko-Persian" imo.
It's actually pretty astounding how little attention his Siyasatnameh gets as a text of political philosophy.
(as a side note: my current book is Poverty and Abstinence by Imam Al-Ghazali, and I've got Al-Razi in my shopping cart! The only non-persian there is Sayyid Naquib Al-Attas, and he himself is a Ba'Alawi Sayyid whose family originates in Basra.)
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iron shrapnel
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Even the Shah of Iran was practicing muslim.
Fatman17
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TRUMP HAS 3 OPTIONS LEFT ON IRAN. ALL OF THEM ARE TERRIBLE.
Day 8 of the Iran war and the President is cornered. Here are his only moves:
OPTION 1: Declare victory and retreat.
→ The U.S. loses the Middle East FOREVER
→ Israel's days become numbered
→ Iran rebuilds and comes back STRONGER
→ America looks weak to every adversary on Earth
→ Trump's legacy = another Afghanistan
OPTION 2: Boots on the ground.
→ Massive American casualties — GUARANTEED
→ Iran is the size of Alaska, 90M people, ALL mountains
→ The U.S. couldn't beat the Taliban in 20 years with full NATO support
→ Iranian drones are shredding conventional military strategy
→ New generation of Iranian commanders are SMARTER than the ones killed
→ No exit strategy. None.
OPTION 3: Nuclear weapons.
→ The moment a nuke hits Iran — the ENTIRE world turns against America
→ Russia and China enter the chat IMMEDIATELY
→ Pakistan — Iran's nuclear neighbor — retaliates
→ Radiation poisons the entire region INCLUDING Israel
→ M.A.D. protocol activated. Civilization at stake.
Here's what nobody wants to say out loud:
The U.S. has the greatest air force in history. 8 days of bombing. And all they've achieved is political assassinations of leaders who were too arrogant to hide.
Iran's missile launches dropped from 350 on Day 1 to 15 on Day 8 — but their drones keep coming. Their proxies keep firing. Hezbollah just CAPTURED an IDF soldier. Saudi oil fields are under attack.
The old playbook doesn't work anymore. Drone warfare changed everything. China itself said: "You are not prepared for this."
Trump is stuck between retreat, quagmire, and armageddon.
There is no good option. Only bad, worse, and unthinkable.
Day 8 of the Iran war and the President is cornered. Here are his only moves:
OPTION 1: Declare victory and retreat.
→ The U.S. loses the Middle East FOREVER
→ Israel's days become numbered
→ Iran rebuilds and comes back STRONGER
→ America looks weak to every adversary on Earth
→ Trump's legacy = another Afghanistan
OPTION 2: Boots on the ground.
→ Massive American casualties — GUARANTEED
→ Iran is the size of Alaska, 90M people, ALL mountains
→ The U.S. couldn't beat the Taliban in 20 years with full NATO support
→ Iranian drones are shredding conventional military strategy
→ New generation of Iranian commanders are SMARTER than the ones killed
→ No exit strategy. None.
OPTION 3: Nuclear weapons.
→ The moment a nuke hits Iran — the ENTIRE world turns against America
→ Russia and China enter the chat IMMEDIATELY
→ Pakistan — Iran's nuclear neighbor — retaliates
→ Radiation poisons the entire region INCLUDING Israel
→ M.A.D. protocol activated. Civilization at stake.
Here's what nobody wants to say out loud:
The U.S. has the greatest air force in history. 8 days of bombing. And all they've achieved is political assassinations of leaders who were too arrogant to hide.
Iran's missile launches dropped from 350 on Day 1 to 15 on Day 8 — but their drones keep coming. Their proxies keep firing. Hezbollah just CAPTURED an IDF soldier. Saudi oil fields are under attack.
The old playbook doesn't work anymore. Drone warfare changed everything. China itself said: "You are not prepared for this."
Trump is stuck between retreat, quagmire, and armageddon.
There is no good option. Only bad, worse, and unthinkable.
Kyussis
Trusted Member
They should be hung from a crane!
Ali_Baba
VIP Member
Have they finally run out of old missiles, or are they preserving older missiles to run down interceptor stocks for the next round and for now, Israel will get the "good stuff" since the interceptors have dried up?
maverick
Trusted Member
i agree with your assessment. the interceptors have been depleted now they will send heavy hitters to cause maximum Infra damage to isreal.
TallGuy
Registered Member
i have a problem, these are not Khurramsher-4 (Aka Khaibar) the heavy that are used look like to me Khorramshahr-2
which is a good weapon system as well.
Ali_Baba
VIP Member
(+) -> Russa feels more comfortable using tactical nukes against Ukraine if the USA or Israel use on in Iran!!!!
hyperman
INT'L MOD
Aah yes, the right hand of Alp Arslan, the Seljuk legend himself. His contributions to statecraft and the Seljuk empire and bureaucracy are immeasurable.
Watandar
Trusted Member
Why do you say that ? The Israelis have the heaviest stocks of all intercepts and most of the Iranian missiles are still not making it to target. I read around here it will be another 2 to 3 weeks before the Israeli stockpile runs out.
It's the GCC that is running very low on interceptor stock and that's why you see a scramble there, like the transfers from South Korea.
