Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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TallarnDesertRaider
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There's no way to ensure that without the eradication of Israel as a state.
Unknowntruth
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You are just making up your own facts.
Never have there ever been 8-10 superpowers. Although there has been more great powers at a time, super powers are a modern concept which the Soviet Union and U.S. were peers at one point.
Please show me how Türkiye is controlled by these “neocons”. Türkiye is an independent country with its own independent foreign policy.
What you described is what has always been the case. The strong prey on the weak but also dominance comes and goes. No country will forever be on top.
China and Russia both play under the same system controlled by the United States. This does not mean those countries can’t act or do not act independently.
Fatman17
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Iran is in talks with China to buy supersonic anti‑ship missiles, sources tell Reuters. The weapons would significantly improve Iran’s strike capability, and could threaten U.S. ships nearby, experts say https://reut.rs/4cuH20z
black_cats
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A girls' school was bombed. 175 people died, mostly children. A political leader went on TV and said they're better off dead than living under Iran's government. Who gave him the authority to decide that?
CPAC chairman Matt Schlapp said on Piers Morgan Uncensored that Iranian schoolgirls killed in the Minab school airstrike would have lived "in a burqa" under "a barbaric society." When journalist Peter Beinart said the roughly 175 victims would be alive without the strikes, Schlapp responded: "They'd be alive in a burqa." Cenk Uygur asked: "So just kill them?" Schlapp: "That's not what I'm saying."
He doubled down: "It's hypocritical to say these attacks harmed women and children when those girls would live behind a burqa with no ability to make career choices." Critics pointed out women in Iran do not wear burqas — that is Afghanistan. Iran requires hijabs. Women make up the majority of university graduates in the country.
Journalist Yashar Ali responded: "Confusing Iran with Taliban-ruled Afghanistan shows a basic ignorance about the country Matt claims to be lecturing the world about."
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CPAC chairman Matt Schlapp said on Piers Morgan Uncensored that Iranian schoolgirls killed in the Minab school airstrike would have lived "in a burqa" under "a barbaric society." When journalist Peter Beinart said the roughly 175 victims would be alive without the strikes, Schlapp responded: "They'd be alive in a burqa." Cenk Uygur asked: "So just kill them?" Schlapp: "That's not what I'm saying."
He doubled down: "It's hypocritical to say these attacks harmed women and children when those girls would live behind a burqa with no ability to make career choices." Critics pointed out women in Iran do not wear burqas — that is Afghanistan. Iran requires hijabs. Women make up the majority of university graduates in the country.
Journalist Yashar Ali responded: "Confusing Iran with Taliban-ruled Afghanistan shows a basic ignorance about the country Matt claims to be lecturing the world about."
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EugeneP
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It is fairly easy to look at the missile and identify what it is and where it came from. Blaming 'Iran' may also be futile since the missile and drone launches are being launched autonomously by commanders without central co-ordination. There is no one "Iranian Military", but multiple Iranian commanders. There is probably not even "Iranian civilian government" to blame.
Fatman17
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Mangled missile fragments purporting to be from the deadly strikes that hit a naval base and elementary school in southern Iran on Feb. 28 bear the markings of an American cruise missile, according to an analysis by The New York Times. Evidence analyzed by The New York Times has been mounting that the school was hit during a series of U.S. strikes targeting an adjacent naval base. https://trib.al/LoDe9f4
safriz
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Yes , that may be true and their entire military leadership was wiped out twice in less than an year.
This time they had to decentralise the military and give authority to isolated military commanders.
They might be making decisions on their own.
Sinan
Registered Member
Balistic trajectory, i think there is no question for Turkey that missiles come from Iran.
Is there are break-up in the command of chain, some Israel engaged commanders firing these missiles. All these not important in the eyes of Türkiye. I think missile was headed to İncirlik Airbase.
If Iran manages to hit a Turkish Military base in Turkey. There will be consequences.
BeingHuman
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They have had several agreement post previous TP3 with china how much has been materialised is yet to be seen. Maybe not in my lifetime. Disappointing tbh
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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While I agree that not making nukes allowed parasitic punks bot only sustain an unchallenged colony but take liberties in periphery. Iran should have had a demonstrable deterrent. They didn't and that is history. However, I don't think anyone was expecting a route Persian Gulf either.
And at this point it will be what they can build upon. It is always freedom first... and perhaps it will spread.
