Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Fatman17 said:
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Every news channel in Pakistan showing this only Indian channels are mum over it, What is varrified by the way according to you, Israeli and Indian sources?

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Meengla said:
Problem is that Iran will not be allowed to rise to its feet again by Israel, even if a 'secular', Shah-like regime comes to power, which seems like an impossibility as of now.

The best would have been to have left Iran alone to figure it out themselves, no war, no sanctions but that would be unacceptable to Israel because Iran chose to extend its reach to the borders of Israel mostly for the Palestinian cause.

Going forward, much in Asia/Middle East will depend on how this war ends. A battered Iran will be the end of Iran as a sovereign nation even if it would be able to preserve its territory. A prevailed Iran would be the death sentence for Israel and for the American military presence in the Middle East. This war is indeed a pivotal war!
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Iran was left on it's own in last 2-3 decades. Mullah regime tried to spread Shia'ism and start proxy wars with other countries. Then foolishly tries to embark on nuclear program which has given them zero benefit and their own country survival is at stake because of it. Iran is stuck b/w two extremes. 1 group who want liberalism, 1 group who wants religious hegemony. I don't see a third option for them.

You don't take on Israel if your own house has leakages. Remember Tipu sultan downfall came from the traitor in his own cabinet? Similarly their fools dream to defend Palestine fell own its own face because moles within were destroying them like a termite.
 
Bratva said:
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It's an unfortunate situation for the Arabs. They are faced with the prospect of unreliable ally in Kaiser and a resurgent Kisra.

May Allah help the Arabs and be merciful unto them.
 
'World War III' is loosely thrown around. Saagar, in these brilliant 10-15 minutes starting this point of the video, sheds some light on why what we all seem to think of WW III is not going happen.

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Prince Hamoodi said:
Every news channel in Pakistan showing this only Indian channels are mum over it, What is varrified by the way according to you, Israeli and Indian sources?

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interesting bit of news!
 
Prince Hamoodi said:
Every news channel in Pakistan showing this only Indian channels are mum over it, What is varrified by the way according to you, Israeli and Indian sources?

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Bratva said:
Iran was left on it's own in last 2-3 decades. Mullah regime tried to spread Shia'ism and start proxy wars with other countries. Then foolishly tries to embark on nuclear program which has given them zero benefit and their own country survival is at stake because of it. Iran is stuck b/w two extremes. 1 group who want liberalism, 1 group who wants religious hegemony. I don't see a third option for them.

You don't take on Israel if your own house has leakages. Remember Tipu sultan downfall came from the traitor in his own cabinet? Similarly their fools dream to defend Palestine fell own its own face because moles within were destroying them like a termite.
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I never said Iran's post 1979 policies were successful, despite noble intentions for Palestine. Related to that, if you see my posts in this thread over the last 2-3 weeks, I had said that if Iran had chosen to yet another component of Pax Americana then Iran would likely to be the Superpower of the Middle East, surpassing even Israel in prosperity. Look at how the GCC 'vassal' states of America lifted tens of millions out of poverty and created generational wealth in their own borders and also lifted even more million expat workers.

Having said that, I don't think Iran's intentions were bad about Palestine nor do I think they can't still prevail. This conflict is pivotal and it is not over yet.
 
Meengla said:
Problem is that Iran will not be allowed to rise to its feet again by Israel, even if a 'secular', Shah-like regime comes to power, which seems like an impossibility as of now.
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So there is no way back now?
Like a do or die situation for Iranian nation.

Pity is that iranian constant support for armed resistance against Israel has complicated the Palestinian issue also.
This Rocket approach has killed any chance of israelo -palestinian deal.
 
Meengla said:
Having said that, I don't think Iran's intentions were bad about Palestine nor do I think they can't still prevail. This conflict is pivotal and it is not over yet.
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It is going to take one Israeli folly, or one misguided missile, which would destroy the Al Aqsa / Dome of Rock to turn this into a full blown religious war in which I am sure Israel will be gone. All those militias in Kurd region, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen... they would turn their attention to Israel.
But, as of now, the Al Sharrah Jolani of Syria is moving his forces to counter Hezbollah; well, he was installed for a reason and greeted by Trump himself in the White House.
 
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