Turkish Missile Programs

Siper B3 will be a first. In our region and anywhere in the world, there is no Muslim country that has developed an Air Defense System with ballistic missile interception capability using its own technology.

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hyperman said:
Siper B3 will be a first. In our region and anywhere in the world, there is no Muslim country that has developed an Air Defense System with ballistic missile interception capability using its own technology.
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In 2020, MACRON with his arrogant attitude, prevented EUROSAM from developing a joint Air Defense System with Turkiye

just 5 years were enough to develop SIPER Air Defense System and entered service

Against Fighter Jets
USA : PATRIOT
Turkiye : SIPER-1/2
France-Italy : SAMP-T

Against Ballistic Missiles ( exo atmospheric )
USA : THAAD , SM-3 , GMD
Turkiye : SIPER-3/4/5 ...( under development )
France-Italy : ASTER-30 block 2 BMD ...( under development )
 
MMM-E said:
In 2020, MACRON with his arrogant attitude, prevented EUROSAM from developing a joint Air Defense System with Turkiye

just 5 years were enough to develop SIPER Air Defense System and entered service

Against Fighter Jets
USA : PATRIOT
Turkiye : SIPER-1/2
France-Italy : SAMP-T

Against Ballistic Missiles ( exo atmospheric )
USA : THAAD , SM-3 , GMD
Turkiye : SIPER-3/4/5 ...( under development )
France-Italy : ASTER-30 block 2 BMD ...( under development )
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Do a comparison of French Air Defense capabilities and Turkey's current capabilities.
 
MMM-E said:
Gravity Bombs have limited range ( 25-100 km )
but I am talking about air launched Ballistic Missile with range of 2.000 km like Russian KINZHAL to attack enemy targets from safe distance

in future , KAAN can carry 4.000 kg air launched Ballistic Missile underbelly as like the MIG-31 with KINZHAL Missile

And because it's launched from the air, its range is at least twice as long.
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Btw IRBMs with range of 5.000 km has big CEP ( 100-150 m )
And we cannot use these missiles as a swarm attack.
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Does the turks have a proper ALBM?
 
hyperman said:
Do a comparison of French Air Defense capabilities and Turkey's current capabilities.
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Current Capabilities

France
MISTRAL MANPADS
CROTOLE NG
MICA VL
SAMP-T
4 Boeing E-3 AEWCs

Turkiye
KORKUT 35mm SPAAG
SUNGUR and STINGER MANPADS
SAHIN 40 mm against kamikaze Drones
HISAR-A/O
SIPER
S400
4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs

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FUTURE Capabilities

France SKY DEFENDER
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Turkiye CELIK KUBBE (STEEL DOME)
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It is clear here that Türkiye will acquire a very advanced capability with the new Systems until 2030


-- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet with 200-300 km GOKHAN air to air Missile
-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with 185+ km GOKBORA air to air Missile
-- F-16 OZGUR-2 with 200-300 km GOKHAN air to air Missile
-- Eurofighter with 200 km METEOR air to air Missile

-- ALP-200 airborne early warning Radar ( AEWC role )
-- ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft
-- KORAL-200 next gen mobile Radar Electronic Warfare System

-- SIPER-3/4/5 Ballistic Missile Defense Systems ...( exo atmospheric)
-- TF-2000 ( TEPE ) class air warfare Destroyers
 
kimjongun said:
Does the turks have a proper ALBM?
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The 300-ER air launched Ballistic Missile to enter service in 2026

Range : 500+km
Guidance : GNSS , INS , TV camera seeker
Speed : high supersonic ( probably mach4 )
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The 300-ER will be the first long range air launched Ballistic Missile of Turkiye

ROKETSAN said that , there will be a bigger air launched Ballistic Missile after the 300-ER
 
MMM-E said:
Current Capabilities

France
MISTRAL MANPADS
CROTOLE NG
MICA VL
SAMP-T
4 Boeing E-3 AEWCs

Turkiye
KORKUT 35mm SPAAG
SUNGUR and STINGER MANPADS
SAHIN 40 mm against kamikaze Drones
HISAR-A/O
SIPER
S400
4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs

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FUTURE Capabilities

France SKY DEFENDER
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Turkiye CELIK KUBBE (STEEL DOME)
View attachment 185169


It is clear here that Türkiye will acquire a very advanced capability with the new Systems until 2030


-- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet with 200-300 km GOKHAN air to air Missile
-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet with 185+ km GOKBORA air to air Missile
-- F-16 OZGUR-2 with 200-300 km GOKHAN air to air Missile
-- Eurofighter with 200 km METEOR air to air Missile

-- ALP-200 airborne early warning Radar ( AEWC role )
-- ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft
-- KORAL-200 next gen mobile Radar Electronic Warfare System

-- SIPER-3/4/5 Ballistic Missile Defense Systems ...( exo atmospheric)
-- TF-2000 ( TEPE ) class air warfare Destroyers
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I meant in terms of capabilities, ranges and envelopes and equivalent systems between both countries.

Particularly SAMs and Sea based air defense systems.
 
hyperman said:
I meant in terms of capabilities, ranges and envelopes and equivalent systems between both countries.

Particularly SAMs and Sea based air defense systems.
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MANPADS ( Turkish system is superior ... Longest range in its class )

MISTRAL ( France )
SUNGUR ( Turkiye )

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Short range Air Defense System ( Turkish system is superior )

CROTOLE NG ( France ) range : 11 km .... altitude : 6km
HISAR-A ( Turkiye ) range : 15+ km .... altitude : 10 km

-- Modern IIR seekers are more resistant to countermeasures such as flares and DIRCM (passive terminal guidance)

-- Vertical launch 360° rapid response, better performance while in motion

-- Dual-pulse motor effective against highly maneuverable targets.


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Medium range Air Defense System ( Turkish system is superior )

MICA VL ( France ) range : 20 km .... altitude : 9 km
HISAR-O RF ( Turkiye ) range : 40+ km ... altitude : 15 km

-- Dual-pulse motor high maneuverability and energy conservation at the terminal

-- High target tracking/engagement capability (60+ tracks, 9+ simultaneous)

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Long range Air Defense System

SAMP-T ( France-Italy ) range : 120+ km .... altitude : 25 km
SIPER ( Turkiye ) range : 150+ km .... altitude : 30 km

-- Larger missile size provides potential for longer range/energy in the future (with booster 250+ km)

-- better AESA Radar

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France doent have Systems similar to Turkish Systems like

KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG
GURZ hybrid Air Defense System
GOKDEMIR medium range Air Defense System ( similar to NASAMS )
 
hyperman said:
Bigboy reveal?
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CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missile MRBM ( 2.000 km )

-- hypersonic speed in terminal phase

-- maneuvering capabilities in the reentry/terminal phase (canards or control surfaces for evasion)

high apogee, very high reentry velocity (Mach 5–7+) and short terminal window.
Maneuverable reentry vehicle (MaRV) reduce intercept probability significantly compared to non-maneuvering threats


PATRIOT , S300 , BARAK-MX , DAVID's SLING , SAMP-T can not intercept CENK hypersonic Ballistic Missile

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With TAYFUN Block 4 and CENK, we are catching up with Iran and Israel in the region for Ballistic Missile capabilities
 
i just wondering why we are hurry, derivating a missile from a very matured design, it took only a decade! why are we rush? i f we cant able to finish the development until WW3 , i am sure that we can catch up until ww4!
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