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[F-22Raptor]

The Iranian military for what passed for an Airforce is gone, yes, same applies to the Navy. It wasn't much to start with, so how much of an achievement this is, is up for debate.

In terms of industrial damage to ballistic missile manufacturing, that is pure cope on America's behalf. Empty buildings, mark those words as they will be revisited. The programme will be back up and running in no time.

The Americans can and will win every military battle as they are, but they will still lose this war... War is politics by another means, and the USA is blowing up a lot of obsolete equipment right now yes. However it is strategically losing this war and what we are seeing from the political classes in the USA that very same realisation now and they are now hoping the world will bail them out of the predicament they find themselves in with some form of face saving exit for the USA.

You can cope however you need too, but the US is achieving its core objectives. The Iranians are done militarily, and they’ll have no way of paying for the hundreds of billions in infrastructure damage post war. The regime is in its dying breath even if that takes several more years. They are no longer viable, and the US/Israel will target them until acceptable leaders are in place.

Survival is not winning. US/Israeli military power is overwhelming. On average, 1,000 Iranian targets are being hit per day, and the Iranians can’t stop it even after firing over 4,000 munitions. At this point, the Iranian regime only holds power through sheer terror on its civilians. They are finished, and time will prove that.

 

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[Ali_Baba]

You can cope however you need too, but the US is achieving its core objectives.

- Regime change in Iran = fail
- Incite civil War in Iran = fail
- Balkanisation of Iran = fail
- Incite proxy terrorist groups like Kurds, MEK to create insurrection in Iran = fail
- Destruction of Iran's ballistic manufacturing = partial limited success..
- Destruction of Iran's nuclear programme = partial limited success.
- Capture and control Iran's oil = fail.

Those were the goals at the outset. Looks like a fail...

The Iranians are done militarily, and they’ll have no way of paying for the hundreds of billions in infrastructure damage post war.

The civilian infrastructure is all there, the oil is still there. Damage to Iran's military capabilities is not in the hundreds of billions, low tens at most. Iran did not have much to begin with. This is cope.

The regime is in its dying breath even if that takes several more years. They are no longer viable, and the US/Israel will target them until acceptable leaders are in place.

The regime was dying, but killing the supreme leader has allowed the young people of Iran to understand what their parents meant when they referred to the USA as the Great Satan. All the protests are done for. The killing of the supreme leader is the vitamin shot the IRI needed. Why else did you think the supreme leader was sitting in his HOME when he was killed ??

Survival is not winning. US/Israeli military power is overwhelming.

War is politics by other means. The overwhelming military power is not producing the political outcomes that were put in place for this operation.

On average, 1,000 Iranian targets are being hit per day, and the Iranians can’t stop it even after firing over 4,000 munitions.

They are going back and hitting the same targets again, and again, because you know, mountains are difficult to destory.

At this point, the Iranian regime only holds power through sheer terror on its civilians. They are finished, and time will prove that.

Nope - this is the re-energisation of the IRI.

The IRI has started the process of evicting the footprint of the USA in the middle east. There will be a fundamental reset in the middle east once this war is over, and it will not involve the Americans going forward. The Americans will be asked to leave. That is part of the strategic defeat of the USA in this war.

 

[SolarWarden]

The Iranian military for what passed for an Airforce is gone, yes, same applies to the Navy. It wasn't much to start with, so how much of an achievement this is, is up for debate.

In terms of industrial damage to ballistic missile manufacturing, that is pure cope on America's behalf. Empty buildings, mark those words as they will be revisited. The programme will be back up and running in no time.

The Americans can and will win every military battle as they are, but they will still lose this war... War is politics by another means, and the USA is blowing up a lot of obsolete equipment right now yes. However it is strategically losing this war and what we are seeing from the political classes in the USA that very same realisation now and they are now hoping the world will bail them out of the predicament they find themselves in with some form of face saving exit for the USA.

Iran's ballistic missile production capability is done. What they are firing is the remnant that has been able to survive so far but that too will be gone soon. Also the suicide drone production is also gone however that can easily be rebuilt since it's nothing but a big RC plane with explosives. Suicide drones will likely be Iran's only capability left when it comes to hitting targets outside of Iran those drones are much easier to hide and launch with little to no notice.

 

[SolarWarden]

- Regime change in Iran = fail
- Incite civil War in Iran = fail
- Balkanisation of Iran = fail
- Incite proxy terrorist groups like Kurds, MEK to create insurrection in Iran = fail
- Destruction of Iran's ballistic manufacturing = partial limited success..
- Destruction of Iran's nuclear programme = partial limited success.
- Capture and control Iran's oil = fail.

Those were the goals at the outset. Looks like a fail...



The civilian infrastructure is all there, the oil is still there. Damage to Iran's military capabilities is not in the hundreds of billions, low tens at most. Iran did not have much to begin with. This is cope.


The regime was dying, but killing the supreme leader has allowed the young people of Iran to understand what their parents meant when they referred to the USA as the Great Satan. All the protests are done for. The killing of the supreme leader is the vitamin shot the IRI needed. Why else did you think the supreme leader was sitting in his HOME when he was killed ??


War is politics by other means. The overwhelming military power is not producing the political outcomes that were put in place for this operation.



They are going back and hitting the same targets again, and again, because you know, mountains are difficult to destory.



Nope - this is the re-energisation of the IRI.

The IRI has started the process of evicting the footprint of the USA in the middle east. There will be a fundamental reset in the middle east once this war is over, and it will not involve the Americans going forward. The Americans will be asked to leave. That is part of the strategic defeat of the USA in this war.

You know it's been only 14 days since the conflict?

 

[F-22Raptor]

- Regime change in Iran = fail
- Incite civil War in Iran = fail
- Balkanisation of Iran = fail
- Incite proxy terrorist groups like Kurds, MEK to create insurrection in Iran = fail
- Destruction of Iran's ballistic manufacturing = partial limited success..
- Destruction of Iran's nuclear programme = partial limited success.
- Capture and control Iran's oil = fail.

Those were the goals at the outset. Looks like a fail...



The civilian infrastructure is all there, the oil is still there. Damage to Iran's military capabilities is not in the hundreds of billions, low tens at most. Iran did not have much to begin with. This is cope.


The regime was dying, but killing the supreme leader has allowed the young people of Iran to understand what their parents meant when they referred to the USA as the Great Satan. All the protests are done for. The killing of the supreme leader is the vitamin shot the IRI needed. Why else did you think the supreme leader was sitting in his HOME when he was killed ??


War is politics by other means. The overwhelming military power is not producing the political outcomes that were put in place for this operation.



They are going back and hitting the same targets again, and again, because you know, mountains are difficult to destory.



Nope - this is the re-energisation of the IRI.

The IRI has started the process of evicting the footprint of the USA in the middle east. There will be a fundamental reset in the middle east once this war is over, and it will not involve the Americans going forward. That is part of the strategic defeat of the USA in this war.

US core objectives were the destruction of the Iranian military, its ballistic missiles and industry base, destroying its Navy, and the ability for Iran to project power outside its borders. The US is achieving all of these, and that’s a strategic victory for the US.

Regime change was a secondary objective that was contingent on the Iranian people and President Trump made that clear from his opening statement on Feb 28.

All of US core objectives are being met with incredible success and I couldn’t be happier with the performance of the US military.

The Iranian regime is dying. When your ability to hold onto power is only through fear and terrorizing your own citizens your legitimacy is destroyed. The Iranian regime is done, even if that takes years to come to fruition. We’ve seen that time and again in recent years.

US foothold in the Middle East couldn’t be stronger. Israel is now the overwhelming regional power. The Gulf nations only seek closer ties with the US now, and their security architecture is reliant on the US and the capabilities it provides.

The US/Israel are the clear winners in this war. The Iranians are the weakest now they’ve ever been.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/qatar-wants-bolster-security-partnership-with-us-after-irans-strikes-2026-03-10/

 

[F-22Raptor]

You know it's been only 14 days since the conflict?

The Iranians will be at the weakest they’ve ever been. Total dominance from the US/Israel.

 

[Ali_Baba]

US core objectives were the destruction of the Iranian military, its ballistic missiles and industry base, destroying its Navy, and the ability for Iran to project power outside its borders. The US is achieving all of these, and that’s a strategic victory for the US.

Nope - the aim was this :

- Regime change in Iran = fail
- Incite civil War in Iran = fail
- Balkanisation of Iran = fail
- Incite proxy terrorist groups like Kurds, MEK to create insurrection in Iran = fail
- Destruction of Iran's ballistic manufacturing = partial limited success..
- Destruction of Iran's nuclear programme = partial limited success.
- Capture and control Iran's oil = fail.

That is why the USA went for Supreme Leader and senior leadership to try and force that.

Regime change was a secondary objective that was contingent on the Iranian people and President Trump made that clear from his opening statement on Feb 28.

Trump backtracked when he realised his plans failed and invented other objectives afterwards. Regime change was the goal.

All of US core objectives are being met with incredible success and I couldn’t be happier with the performance of the US military.

War is politics by other means, and the USA is strategically failing. Bombing alone does not achieve anything if the political goals cannot be achieved.

The Iranian regime is dying. When your ability to hold onto power is only through fear and terrorizing your own citizens your legitimacy is destroyed. The Iranian regime is done, even if that takes years to come to fruition. We’ve seen that time and again in recent years.

Unlikely - the war has had the opposite effect.

US foothold in the Middle East couldn’t be stronger.

US Foothold will decrease over the years. You have not been paying attention to the Arab leadership's comments, and those of think bodies in the middle east. Things will change., that is guaranteed now.

Israel is now the overwhelming regional power.

Turkieye and Egypt are the powers. Turkieye will make Israel into doner kebabs, that is pretty much clear now. What this war has proven is that Israel cannot fight anyone for more than 10-12 days before they have exhausted themselves. They are too small and vulnerable with limited redundancy of infrastructure or supplies and that has not been lost on the powers in the region.

The USA is the real power, Israel is not. This have exposed the vulnerability of Israel.

Israel could not fight Iran for more than 2 weeks before asking for a ceasefire. It is the USA and Israel, who are via intermediaries like Oman, begging for a ceasefire and Iran has rejected them.

The Gulf nations only seek closer ties with the US now, and their security architecture is reliant on the US and the capabilities it provides.

No, they have realised that having such large American presence on their lands has made them targets, where the USA is only defending Israel and not them, and is using bases in their country to defend Israel ... That lesson has been learnt by the Arabs. Even the Saudi's are breaking away from their relationship with the USA with its defence pact with Pakistan !! Something that was once thought unthinkable.

The US/Israel are the clear winners in this war. The Iranians are the weakest now they’ve ever been.

US/Israel are facing collective strategic defeat in their plans.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/qatar-wants-bolster-security-partnership-with-us-after-irans-strikes-2026-03-10/

Wait for the real decisions to take place, once this war is over.

 

[Ali_Baba]

You know it's been only 14 days since the conflict?

Yes - and Trump is rumbling through his phonebook trying to get intermediaries to organise a ceasefire, while also throwing the dice for another roll in the hope that if he doubles down, somehow his numbers will come up and he can somehow get out of the corner he has gotten himself in.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Nope - the aim was this :

- Regime change in Iran = fail
- Incite civil War in Iran = fail
- Balkanisation of Iran = fail
- Incite proxy terrorist groups like Kurds, MEK to create insurrection in Iran = fail
- Destruction of Iran's ballistic manufacturing = partial limited success..
- Destruction of Iran's nuclear programme = partial limited success.
- Capture and control Iran's oil = fail.

That is why the USA went for Supreme Leader and senior leadership to try and force that.



Trump backtracked when he realised his plans failed and invented other objectives afterwards. Regime change was the goal.



War is politics by other means, and the USA is strategically failing. Bombing alone does not achieve anything if the political goals cannot be achieved.



Unlikely - the war has had the opposite effect.



US Foothold will decrease over the years. You have not been paying attention to the Arab leadership's comments, and those of think bodies in the middle east. Things will change., that is guaranteed now.



Turkieye and Egypt are the powers. Turkieye will make Israel into doner kebabs, that is pretty much clear now. What this war has proven is that Israel cannot fight anyone for more than 10-12 days before they have exhausted themselves. They are too small and vulnerable with limited redundancy of infrastructure or supplies and that has not been lost on the powers in the region.

The USA is the real power, Israel is not. This have exposed the vulnerability of Israel.

Israel could not fight Iran for more than 2 weeks before asking for a ceasefire. It is the USA and Israel, who are via intermediaries like Oman, begging for a ceasefire and Iran has rejected them.



No, they have realised that having such large American presence on their lands has made them targets, where the USA is only defending Israel and not them, and is using bases in their country to defend Israel ... That lesson has been learnt by the Arabs. Even the Saudi's are breaking away from their relationship with the USA with its defence pact with Pakistan !! Something that was once thought unthinkable.



US/Israel are facing collective strategic defeat in their plans.



Wait for the real decisions to take place, once this war is over.

As I said before, you can cope however you need too. Iran has lost the war, the US and Israel have won and both powers are entrenched in the Middle East. The Iranians are weaker now than they’ve ever been and their ability to project power outside its borders has been destroyed.

The US/Israel will continue to hit as many Iranian targets as it chooses. They’ll continue to kill as many regime leaders as they need until acceptable leaders are in place. Militarily, this has been an overwhelming success for the US/Israel.

Iran has lost, time to accept reality. We live in the real world. The regime is dying, and only holds power through the threat of murder. Its economy is toast, its military and industrial base destroyed. It has zero legitimacy now. Regime change is up to the Iranian people, and the US/Israel have set the ground conditions for that. We won’t do it for them. We’re not spending another decade nation building.

Now run back to the cope thread and comfort yourself there. This is a US military subsection/thread. This is no place to peddle Iranian delusions and propaganda.

 

[baqai]

You can cope however you need too, but the US is achieving its core objectives. The Iranians are done militarily, and they’ll have no way of paying for the hundreds of billions in infrastructure damage post war. The regime is in its dying breath even if that takes several more years. They are no longer viable, and the US/Israel will target them until acceptable leaders are in place.

Survival is not winning. US/Israeli military power is overwhelming. On average, 1,000 Iranian targets are being hit per day, and the Iranians can’t stop it even after firing over 4,000 munitions. At this point, the Iranian regime only holds power through sheer terror on its civilians. They are finished, and time will prove that.

what exactly is the core objective of this war again? it seems to be changing on daily and at times hourly basis

 

[F-22Raptor]

what exactly is the core objective of this war again? it seems to be changing on daily and at times hourly basis

It’s not changing, go back to the first 2-3 days of the war and President Trump and Sec Rubio stated it clear.

1. Destruction of the Iranian military/ballistic missiles and industrial base
2. Destruction of its Navy
3. Destruction of its nuclear program so that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon
4. Destroy Irans ability to project power outside its borders and through its proxies

The US/Israel are achieving all of this and will constitute a massive strategic victory. Iran is the #3 most capable adversary to the US after China and Russia. When you weaken your adversary to this degree that’s a major strategic success.

Regime change was a SECONDARY objective that relies on the Iranian people. Yes, we would like to see them overthrown, but we’re not spending another decade nation building. Thats up to the Iranians.

 

[Ali_Baba]

As I said before, you can cope however you need too. Iran has lost the war, the US and Israel have won and both powers are entrenched in the Middle East. The Iranians are weaker now than they’ve ever been and their ability to project power outside its borders has been destroyed.

This war is becoming a new Vietnam for the USA with the same mission creep, and the same inability to close out the war with any pretence of a victory. This was/is a strategic failure for both the USA/Israel. Iran's strength has never been her air force or navy, they made a decision to focus on their missiles and the missiles can reach anywhere, far more than their air force could. The missiles have become sooo painful for Israel that they are now censoring all videos of their damage in Israel, that is not success, that is failure.

The US/Israel will continue to hit as many Iranian targets as it chooses. They’ll continue to kill as many regime leaders as they need until acceptable leaders are in place. Militarily, this has been an overwhelming success for the US/Israel.

Other that day #1 sneek attack where they both killed a 86 year old in his home/office, no leader have been killed. Iran, can now target Israel anywhere it wants, as they have basically run out of interceptors. This war is just starting.

Iran has lost, time to accept reality. We live in the real world. The regime is dying, and only holds power through the threat of murder. Its economy is toast, its military and industrial base destroyed. It has zero legitimacy now. Regime change is up to the Iranian people, and the US/Israel have set the ground conditions for that. We won’t do it for them. We’re not spending another decade nation building.

Israel/USA started this war for regime change, asked for the people to "rise" up which they refused to do that and are now aimlessly running around asking for anyone who will listen to them, to arrange a ceasefire for them with Iran. Iran has said no, and now you are stuck in this war. There is no success here for Israel/USA. This was is a strategic failure.

Now run back to the cope thread and comfort yourself there. This is a US military subsection/thread. This is no place to peddle Iranian delusions and propaganda.

This is a discussion forum. If that concept is troubling for you, then maybe not post on a discussion forum.