Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[That_Guy]

Saudis pushed for this attack and Prince Sultan airbase has been the main US air force base in the region going back to the 1990s. All American air wars have been staged and directed from there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/02/28/trump-iran-decision-saudi-arabia-israel/

Im not convinced. It seems more of an American attempt to shift blame.

 

[EugeneP]

While true, he also did a very good job in duping the electorate for what he actually had in store for them. He ran on America first, no more wars peace president, that will focus on internal matters like immigration and the economy, and for his MAGA base also the Epstein issue, draining the swamp and all that BS.

The segment of the electorate that matters the most and swings the vote to either party are the independents. If they knew he was lying to this extent, where he would do the complete opposite of what he promised, and go on a rampage around the globe starting fires and threatening everyone with war, there is no way he would've won. Absolutely no one had this kind of war on their bingo card when they voted for him, not even his own MAGA base, despite their continued support for him so far, the majority did not want or expect this foreign adventurism and Epstein cover ups.

The biggest loss will come from the non-affiliated, they are completely opposed to him now. There's no way the Republicans survive the next mid term and presidential elections. The Dems can rerun their weakest candidates in Biden or Kamala again, or the most left wing blue haired nut job and they'd still win right now. That's how much of a hole Trump has dug for his own party. It's going to be a bloodbath, especially with the economy in the toilet.

But I am surprised how little grassroots opposition there has been from the public, compared to, for example, the 2003 war on Iraq. Except from the far-left Democrats and a few pure MAGA, most Democrats and Republicans are - may be slightly apprehensive and worried if things may go wrong - but otherwise holding their tongue. I think the lack of ground invasion is the main reason. There was similarly little public resentment against the 1999 NATO air attacks on Serbia.

 

[That_Guy]

they can say whatever they want but they need to prove it.

Have the Houthees never received support from Iran? If you say yes, then you're either lying or ignorant.

The military support to the houthees isn't exactly a secret. Even Iran doesnt outright deny it.

 

[That_Guy]

And what exactly is pakistan supposed to do? We are fighting a slow methodical war in Afghanistan and have a nuclear armed neighbour staring us down ready to pounce.

If saudis indeed want to go to war they have a massive airforce sitting idle to do something with

That's for Pakistani generals to decide. Why ask me?

 

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[ToddE]

Israelis/US and now sheikhdoms are operating under extreme level censorship to hide failures/damage/casualties to maintain narrative. Chinese sats have been neutralized as well so other than OSINT leaks here and there we have no way of knowing enemy losses except for what they agree to release which is always false. IRGC should adapt and they have demonstrated that in past that they can, they need to find a solution to this, use leaking spies, drone views or Sats or whatever. We need our own wartime narrative instead of allowing the enemy to escape the

Anyways

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We might see heavy use of these in Iraq. If we had no Israel appointed Sharaa in Syria, Hezbollah would be getting best of the best equipment as well from Iraq-Iran.

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Pahlavi is done forever

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[Eşbah]

Seems like a stretch.

Its the sort of logic that the US used to bomb Laos, even though Laos did nothing.

Pakistan will not resist against China's, Iran's and Turkey's demands to stay out of this war because MBS wants to sacrifice Pakistani soldiers.

There's also no appetite in Islamabad to walk into this quagmire of war.

Your assessment is absolutely off here.

 

[Ibbi32]

That's for Pakistani generals to decide. Why ask me?

You are the one saying that pakistan will have to intervene and that it will be dragged into this war? If so how exactly will it have to intervene under what specifics. If theres no plan on how to intervene and manage escalation simple truth is that ksa will not ask us to intervene and we will not need to intervene

 

[That_Guy]

Pakistan will not resist against China's, Iran's and Turkey's demands to stay out of this war because MBS wants to sacrifice Pakistani soldiers.

There's also no appetite in Islamabad to walk into this quagmire of war.

Your assessment is absolutely off here.

I never said Pakistan should go to war, I said that if Pakistan is treaty bound (and we still don't know the details of the treaty), Pakistan may not have a choice. Pakistan may end up risking losing one of its biggest partners and supporters.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[j_hungary]

America doesnt have the right.

So your entire argument falls apart.

This isn't a preemptive war; this is a "preventive" war. And there are no, none, nada, legal justification for a "preventive war."

My wife said this

Preemptive War is legal in international terms, BUT it has strict guidance on how this works, and 3 condition must be met before you can call a war a preemptive war

1.) An attack on your own country is imminent and will be destructive.
2.) There are no alternatives
3.) had already tried a diplomatic solution, but it didn't work.

Unless the US has intelligence that Iran is about to attack the US (Not just bases in the Middle East, but the US Mainland) and it is imminent, it's not a month after or a year after, 1 did not fulfill.

You can argue whether or not 2 is fulfilled, and 3 is fulfilled.

A Preventive War is to prevent something from happening, that's not legal in any shape, way or form, and it is what the current US administration is using to fight Iran, because it prevents Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, well, at least this is what the President said, and it's not legal in any international law.

 

[ToddE]

Strait

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What happened here ?

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Hadid-110 is jet powered, faster, low RCS than Shahed-136

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[Immortals]

Theory: The strike on March 11th might have been against Bibi

A strange Iranian missile was seen with a very strange and long exhaust trail and burning a bright white (instead of orange or red) with bright bursts of light and maneuvering on a steep descent

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(3rd video in the above clip)

What we know:

No social media posts from his son after March 8th
Bibi was last seen visiting people in person March 10th
Then this missile attack occurs on March 11th
March 12th he does a teleconference with reporters (allegedly)
March 13th the recording of the speech from that teleconference is released with claims of video editing or deepfake use.

Radio silence then.

 

[That_Guy]

You are the one saying that pakistan will have to intervene and that it will be dragged into this war? If so how exactly will it have to intervene under what specifics. If theres no plan on how to intervene and manage escalation simple truth is that ksa will not ask us to intervene and we will not need to intervene

I never said "will"

I said "may"

The issue is that we still do not know what the defense treaty entails, and the Pakistani government has already issued a warning to Iran about its strikes on KSA precisely because of this.

I dont know why everyone is getting mad at me? I'm literally just repeating Pakistani government's stance on the issue.

 

[EugeneP]

There don't appear to be any significant developments in this conflict today besides increased rate of US strikes on Central Iran

Iran continues striking at the Gulf with UAE claiming 33 drones and 9 ballistic missiles were fired at it today

These were the attacks today:

1. The combined force struck the Jey Industrial Zone in Esfahan Province on March 14 after previously targeting the area on March 6. The Jey Industrial Zone contains facilities tied to Iranian drone manufacturing and defense industrial activities.
2.The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) struck the Iranian Space Research Center in Tehran City on March 14, likely to disrupt Iranian space and missile-related research that could support long-range strike capabilities.
3.The combined force struck Law Enforcement Command (LEC) Station 108 in the Navab neighborhood of Tehran and LEC Station 148 in the Enghelab neighborhood of Tehran on March 14.
4.The IDF reported on March 14 that it struck sites used to produce air defense systems west of Karaj, Alborz Province, and in western Tehran.