Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

Early warning alert for Iranian missile headed to Haifa region

 

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[Mav3rick]

THis is bollocks. Pakistani leaders maybe corrupt on occasion but they are not fools. 50 million Pakistanis look to Irans supreme leader as their spiritual leader. Our damned anthem is in Farsi.

Now Salman bastard probably knew this attack on Iran was coming after all not only has he been asking Americans to attack Iran but he gave Krushner 2 billion dollars. He signed the defence agreement with Pakistan knowing that this attack was coming. Saudi do not expect Pakistan to come to their aid they simply purchased Pakistan not to take Iran side.

Why do all and sundry accept the bullshit that Americans are not using their GCC piglet bases.
Iran has the right to self defence and attack Saudi and other piglets if they allow US and Israel to attack from their soil


Pakistan will never attack Iran. So stop whatabout fukery we not attacking Iran

Dude you need to calm down lest you invite a heart attack or worse, break your keyboard!

Pakistan is not going to enter this war, this is today! What can happen tomorrow is anybody's guess. At the end of the day, Pakistan has to worry about Pakistanis first and foremost, Iran's comes 3rd......after GCC countries which not only host millions of Pakistanis, they are also a lifeline for our economy. Our economy is already taking a hit, to the point where IMF funding is getting delayed (yeah, this war has a factor in everything). An offer of Military support, tens of Billions of Dollars and demand from GCC to pick a side can change things very very quickly.

 

[Sanin]

I believe Netanyahu is out there performing some satanic ritual while waiting for Ramadan to get over so that those sarkash shayateen come out for help…

 

[kobra]

Saudi themselves have not said a word about joining the war against iran but certain elements in Pakistan (Filled with Sectarian hatred) and (Armed forces fan boys who have failed to achieve their dream) are desrperately dying to see Pakistan attacking Iran, fulfilling their pact with saudis.
Haha

Yet they fail to simply put forward the fact that what is pakistan going to contribute in this war which US, Israil, UK are not doing. They are bombarding iran with f35s, f22, B2, B52s, Tomohawks, three career strike groups and what not.

Only way Pakistan contribute on saudi behalf is through land invasion from Baluchistan, using multiple brigades. Are these intellectuals suggesting that we shall do this?

As far as Air force and Navy is concerned, iran is already taking a beating from 100x more powerful nuclear entities, So there isnt much we can contribute.

 

[Falcon29]

When Iran continues to attack Saudi interests in the region, on the pretext that those are US interests, Iran itself opens a path for retaliation. Iran is very lucky that the GCC has still not decided to go to war but if it does, the pounding that Iran will receive from all sides would mean Iran becoming another Afghanistan or Iraq.

You claim that Saudi bases are being used by the US to attack Iran, if that is the case then Iran would be justified in retaliating against those bases. However, Iran cannot justify attacking Saudi Financial interests, even those which are with US companies because at the end of the day it is Saudi money and economy at stake first. But again, no other source is reporting use of Middle East bases to launch attacks on Iran.

Even after all this, Iran enjoys massive support from countries like Pakistan, which is trying its best to NOT choose a side. And yet, at the cost of repetition, Iran must also respect the fact that Pakistan has a defence pact with Saudi Arabia which Pakistan will honour even if it means eventually going to war against Iran. This is, however, in Iranian hands. And Iran should be concerned, really concerned, because war with Pakistan could also potentially mean US boots on ground through Pakistan.

Finally, I would advise my Iranian friends, brothers and neighbours to weight things very carefully, there is only so much that others can take from you quietly. Think of the consequences of pushing the entire region into war, against yourself. How long can Pakistan resist the pressure from US to allow the use of Pakistan bases as a launch pad against Iran and how long can Pakistan resist Saudi pressure to go to war against Iran?

But how do we know US is not using these bases and these few nations are quietly behind the regime change war ? They can say don't attack Muslim nations as means to keep costs of war down for all parties involved in the regime change war against Iran.

Iran doing a 'you're going down with me' approach may at least bring a shakeup of order in the region. Probably for the Sunni world more than anything else.

There's a chance Iran regime falls and then Arab regimes get really repressive and make peace with Israel.

The more US sees Iranian hesitancy to target Saudi and few GCC states , the more emboldened it becomes to pursue total regime change in Iran. Iran is getting weaker day by day and nobody believes this is a short term commitment by the US and Israel. That's politik to keep costs down and stabilize markets.

I hate to see war between Muslim nations but I can say Arab regimes didn't help their selves (neither did Iran with previous policies )with their failure to communicate with regional public and inconsistency in their policies when it comes to Israel. Some people (I'm not one of them), as a result , want to see Arab regimes shaken up or replaced with better leadership as a result.

Somebody should exercise diplomatic pressure now to get US to drop unrealistic demands for this worst case scenario to not materialize. Is anyone actually trying to or it's empty promises to buy more time?

Iran is in a fight against time. It's deterrence cards right now are essentially closing Strait of Hormuz and targeting critical infrastructure in Saudi Arabia and the GCC. With time the ability to take out critical infrastructure in KSA and GCC goes down as US is actively targeting their capabilities.

Decision makers in Iran are trying to hold off as long as they can from doing that because they genuinely don't want to but may not have a choice with time, unless they surrender. Which is unlikely.

 

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Eilat region

 

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United States of Israel giving free weapons and $$$ for Israeli war machine

Neglecting struggling Americans that can't get jobs --:
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URGENT | Israeli Broadcasting Authority: Washington has begun an air bridge to supply the Israeli army with ammunition

 

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More early warning alerts -- :

Eilat region

Iranian missile in southern Israel

Several rockets from Lebanon fired at Haifa

-- early reports

 

[Fatman17]

 

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Iranian missile in southern Israel

Several rockets from Lebanon fired at Haifa

-- early reports

Al Arabiya correspondent: Hezbollah launched rockets towards Haifa simultaneously with Iran #AlArabiya_Breaking

 

[Gripen9]

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Not looking good for Republicans in November Mid Terms!

Doesn't matter. The zios control both.

 

[Fatman17]

 

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United States of Israel giving free weapons and $$$ for Israeli war machine

Neglecting struggling Americans that can't get jobs --:
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URGENT | Israeli Broadcasting Authority: Washington has begun an air bridge to supply the Israeli army with ammunition

Israeli broadcast: Arrival of ammunition shipments from America to support the air force #العربية_عاجل

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

How long can Pakistan resist the pressure from US to allow the use of Pakistan bases as a launch pad against Iran and how long can Pakistan resist Saudi pressure to go to war against Iran?

There, you said it!

It is not about objectivity or aversion to an illegal war of aggression... that was totally initiated by choice... subject to which were every other Middle Eastern state... context be damned!
First thing Pakistan was not and is not party to any Saudi-US bilateral ties or compulsions. Neither was it grandfathered in...
A US aggression where Saudis are mere spectators because US chose war ... WITH OR WITHOUT SAUDI APPROVAL AND WAS NOT ABLE TO GUARANTEE THEIR PROTECTION OR SECURITY.
In other words US threw Saudis under the bus, come what may!
Pakistan has no compulsion unless it so CHOOSE!
And that choice comes with many a pitfalls... Pakistan has a significant Shi'i minority and a sacred border.
This war has nothing to do with Saudis except their exposure to US diktat, materiel and bases... ISR capabilities... that for US work under a unified command.
Here is where the US impunity precludes Iranian... because eventhough US can use whatever it may at its discretion... Iran must ties both its hands behind its back to get slapped around. Because then Saudi or GCC sovereignty swings into action only to split the battlefield when it is not.
I know it seems complicated on the other side... it is not. It is Iran vs zion... where zion can sock puppet US and its proxies to do its bidding.

Pakistan will be wise to sit back. Only thing it can offer is the safety of the regime... which is not going anywhere regardless of Pakistan and Iranians even if they were able to, are not after that...
So stop being so melodramatic.