Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kobra]

You can’t use manpads on fighter jets unless they are flying low and you suprise them.

Gaza and HZ have had manpads for decades and never hit anything.

I know, but for drones they are good enough. their is no solution to air superiority of US now. Only way out is to inflict enough pain and damage to zionist entity and us bases in gcc along the world economy, that US has to stop the attacks...

Jets roaming free deep inside iranian skies is a bad bad news, If orange pedo gets mad and orders a shock and awe like baghdad or tora bora, its going to be catastrophe.

 

[ToddE]

If you are doing a non stand off weapon bombing run then they will be below 40,000 feet.

Which is still in reach of a hidden air defense system, a loitering weapon (358/359), etc.

They wouldn’t take the risk. All the videos I have seen of B-52s during this war they been dropping JSAAMs. Just like the Russians they are just flinging cruise missiles from the border regions with their bombers.

If war prolongs, the airdefence will adapt and we might see hits here and there. The Search-Track-Fire ARH/SARH weaponry is not very useful, instead IIR/EO guided SHORADS have worked.

 

[Unknown987]

4th IRANIAN WAVE INCOMING

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Unprecedented

Yemen should join the party

 

[Bengal71]

If you are doing a non stand off weapon bombing run then they will be below 40,000 feet.

Which is still in reach of a hidden air defense system, a loitering weapon (358/359), etc.

They wouldn’t take the risk. All the videos I have seen of B-52s during this war they been dropping JSAAMs. Just like the Russians they are just flinging cruise missiles from the border regions with their bombers.

Yes agreed. But MANPADs like Stingers and Verba can't hit them man. Verba max altitude is 4.5 KM (15000 feet).

 

[Meengla]

It is late in the day here--well, almost 1 am NYC time. I am muddled and tired.
IMO, because this is a Pakistani forum after all: Pakistan will never take part in any action against Iran to cause injuries inside Iran even with Pakistan's dire economic needs on GCC Arab countries. Pakistan, even if it didn't have the largest Shia Muslim population, is too ideological of a State to act against any Muslim nation.
Good night.

 

[Immortals]

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[kobra]

358 Majid and similar anti drone sams needed to relocate after every downing of hermes, mq9 etc. Downed hermes can still alert the whereabouts of the rocket launch to planes like F16s flying higher by seeing the infrared flashes of rockets. Rocket launch sites of 358, Majid should be separated from the vehicle itself. That is another solution if the seeker-tracker does not move.

wacth after 9:00 mark for truck launched mobile system, quick to move affter the take down..

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[Falcon29]

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[ety]

So it the visit being cancelled?

Not sure yet. Trump sort of invited himself to Beijing in the beginning. Don't know if Chinese gov is going to deny him now.

 

[FHN]

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[FUB]

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[vizier]

wacth after 9:00 mark for truck launched mobile system, quick to move affter the take down..

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Yes and other than moving 358 is a good option because it is a jet engine missile. It has less infrared flash signature while launching than a rocket based one. The problem with moving is they can potentially detect the object by radar doppler shift from air but it is difficult with a smaller vehicle. There can be measures against doppler shift that as well Ukraine uses shoot-scoot all the time against Russia for example.
The other option is camouflaging the sensor and launching from a separat site a distance away.

 

[pakistaniandproud]

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[Falcon29]

They have created a perception of invincibility by giving severe beatings to Arabs in bulk in past. IDF this, Mossad that ... they dont want this perception to be gone

That went gone on October 7 by Hamas

at any costs despite getting hit by IRGC for 15 consecutive days, hence comes severe censorship and gag orders, control of MSM etc to maintain this perception otherwise why would they even place this censorship regime if no one is dying ? why arrests over leaks? why extreme media blackouts ?

Ironically few stupid arabs try to peddle this Jew narrative BS in hatred for Iran while not realizing that the foundation of this "perception" is the reason their own Arab governments saw Gazan Arabs turned into meat shreds and yet did nothing just out of fear of this image Jews fooled them with.

Nobody hates Iran you're just under some distress