Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

 

[ToddE]

Had Jewlani the Mossad Sharra not been installed in Syria to cut of Iraq-Iran supply lines to Hezbollah, we might have seen decisive Israeli defeat in lebanon like 2006 or even better. Mossad installed Sharra through Turkey as a barrier between Hezb and Iraq-Iran. Now he is proving himself more loyal to Zios by planning to fight Hezb at Israeli behest to take burden off Israel.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/...port-for-lebanon-s-effort-to-disarm-hezbollah

 

[Falcon29]

Plane in video is f35... Air defense is gone completely if F35s are flying so freely deep inside.. Iran has to up the ante to make war more painful for israil otherwise its going to be catastrophe if they start hitting infrastructure .

Iran's capacity to hurt Israel is limited due to geographical reasons

Hezbollah is operating with limited resources

They can both up the ante slightly but all these calculations being taken are very difficult for whomever are calling the shots. It is a stressful period and they can be blamed for inviting worse attacks on their respective homelands, causing rift in Muslim world, and have to take into account post war deterrence.

I would not want to be in their shoes. They performed well thus far and not gone up escalation ladder entirely.

Iran did everything it could within its means to prepare for this but US/Israel have economies of scale and superior weaponry despite that. It's not a failure on Iran's part. There are so many defenses in the region and capable air forces.

 

[Falcon29]

Japanese Broadcasting Corporation from official sources: We make our decisions ourselves and will not send ships to the Strait of Hormuz just because Trump requested that.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Falcon29]

Wars matter in which IDF has reigned supreme against coalition of Arabs, they lost lands, literally lands. That too decades back when USSR was supplying them weapons, post USSR no Arab country has ever fired a bullet in direction of Israel out of fear. Stupid Terrorism or militant attacks here and there means nothing otherwise US and Russian Armed forces are below some stupid terror networks they have faced bombings from.



Only one under distress is you because your beloved Israel (basically your genocider) and US (enabler) is losing the war against IRI that you have bias against. They have created a perception of invincibility by giving severe beatings to Arabs in bulk in past. IDF this, Mossad that ... they dont want this perception to be gone at any costs despite getting hit by sanctioned for decades IRGC for 15 consecutive days, hence comes severe censorship and gag orders, control of MSM etc to maintain this perception otherwise why would they even place this censorship regime if no one is dying ? why arrests over leaks? why extreme media blackouts ?

That's a lot of word salad from you. A tactical military operation is not a 'terrorist attack '. Hamas's tactical military operation shattered the IDF, Israeli FBI , and Mossad 's image. Hamas dealt a blow to the IDF southern division, executed hits on military and government related infrastructure in the Gaza Envelope.

I don't care for middle eastern way where they make stuff up and expect everyone to play along. Nor Western exaggerated takes on achieving strategic objectives of war.

 

[Gripen9]

 

[UKBengali]

Iran is not firing 40-50 per day rate

It's more 12-20

2-3 interceptors are fired per Iranian missile.

 

[Tamerlane]

There’s no doubt that the Palestinians are the heroes of the Muslim world along with Iranians. It’s mind boggling that they’ve kept fighting despite horrendous losses. Same for all the others fighting the satan worshipping Zionists.

Hats off to all of them. Your sacrifices are waking up all the Muslims of the world.

 

[EugeneP]

I think the other reason is that amount of conflicts in the last quarter of the century has made us less sensitive and our moral compass is getting compromised too. I mean clearly this is an unjust war and most of us are just sitting in and really not paying much attention here in usa.

That and the fact that Iran doesn't have much of public support from any faction. Iranian Americans, at least the more vocal ones, seemed much more enthusiastic for the war than average don't-care Americans.

 

[clutch]

America doesnt have the right.

So your entire argument falls apart.

Fair enough... However, America including IsraHell have made it (the right to preemptively attack) their modus operandi. Besides, we now live in a post-Rules Based world. It's might is right now.

The hypocrisy of the Saudis is that they actually also preemptively attacked Yemen and initiated the full-scale military campaign (Operation Decisive Storm) in March 2015. They in fact argued that preemptive attack on Yemen was their right because it was a threat to them.

Saudis are also learning FAFO first hand.

 

[PakAl]

What Israel/US conducted on Iran is state terrorism, killing many Iranian leaders and school girls amounts to terrorism using feinted negotiation, not a war in the normal sense. So, Iran doesn't have to really hold back so much.

Meanwhile Israel acting like the victim at UN

 

[Mav3rick]

ksa with unlimited funds and military might of all arab countries could'nt take out a ragtag militia in yemen, what makes you think they will even muster enough courage to attack iran? the kingdom has no balls, their only purpose is to defend jewish land at the expense of muslims.

They might not know how to fight but when push comes to shove, the fight in the blood of Arabs cannot be discounted. It was the same Arabs which defeated all the super powers of their time, from Rome to Persia.

Anyway, Saudi Arabia might just be compelled to respond because they cannot just continue to keep on taking hits and then when they decide they are going to war, they will not go to war alone; Pakistan will have to join that war.

 

[Falcon29]

Yisrael Hayom: Launch of more than 10 missiles from Iran and Lebanon towards Israel since midnight #AlArabiyaBreaking

 

[Mav3rick]

Frankly, It would mean that Pakistan has taken the side of Israel and the U.S. The only reason U.S bases in Saudi Arabia are being struck by Iran is because the Saudis are allowing our enemies the use of their bases and air space to attack Iran in contradiction to their word that they would not!

When Iran continues to attack Saudi interests in the region, on the pretext that those are US interests, Iran itself opens a path for retaliation. Iran is very lucky that the GCC has still not decided to go to war but if it does, the pounding that Iran will receive from all sides would mean Iran becoming another Afghanistan or Iraq.

You claim that Saudi bases are being used by the US to attack Iran, if that is the case then Iran would be justified in retaliating against those bases. However, Iran cannot justify attacking Saudi Financial interests, even those which are with US companies because at the end of the day it is Saudi money and economy at stake first. But again, no other source is reporting use of Middle East bases to launch attacks on Iran.

Even after all this, Iran enjoys massive support from countries like Pakistan, which is trying its best to NOT choose a side. And yet, at the cost of repetition, Iran must also respect the fact that Pakistan has a defence pact with Saudi Arabia which Pakistan will honour even if it means eventually going to war against Iran. This is, however, in Iranian hands. And Iran should be concerned, really concerned, because war with Pakistan could also potentially mean US boots on ground through Pakistan.

Finally, I would advise my Iranian friends, brothers and neighbours to weight things very carefully, there is only so much that others can take from you quietly. Think of the consequences of pushing the entire region into war, against yourself. How long can Pakistan resist the pressure from US to allow the use of Pakistan bases as a launch pad against Iran and how long can Pakistan resist Saudi pressure to go to war against Iran?