Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Fatman17 said:
Karachi is Pakistan’s premier industrial hub, contributing approximately 30% to the national industrial output and 25% of its GDP. The city drives its economy through textiles, cement, steel, heavy machinery, food processing, and automotive assembly plants. It also generates about 35% of Pakistan's tax revenue, with major industrial zones in SITE, Korangi, and Port Qasim.
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important to note, there is no major and varied rail infrastructure from Sindh to upper parts.


so, how can Pak. counter this?

easy, destroy naval carrier battle groups along with majority of attacking fleet

or

destroy air power
 
While you are thinking of airbases or other infrastructure as losses - think also of individuals.

What Israel has taught India about is that crippling military leadership has a similar impact as taking out infrastructure because it becomes a headless chicken.

Remember, your troops were still willing to fight on in the various spots they held in 71 if Niazi did not surrender. A similar effect can be seen that in Iran’s previous 12 day conflict the loss of military leaders created a stun effect in response times.
 
OK , so this might be a little old to talk about but indians were saying something during the conflict on a blue on blue by the IAF , probably by an AD , we had a video of Akash intercepting something in pampore...also we had an AD kill too right? the mirage 2000 by the HQ9? @Oscar said something about it some time back...To add to it the Abhijiet iyer also said some words about friendly fire...
Some vids ,
Akash engaging a target..What was it...All our boys were inside friendly airspace..
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If someone is intrested , read this reddit post too..though i have been skeptical of this whole scenario for very long.
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kimjongun said:
OK , so this might be a little old to talk about but indians were saying something during the conflict on a blue on blue by the IAF , probably by an AD , we had a video of Akash intercepting something in pampore...also we had an AD kill too right? the mirage 2000 by the HQ9? @Oscar said something about it some time back...To add to it the Abhijiet iyer also said some words about friendly fire...
Some vids ,
Akash engaging a target..What was it...All our boys were inside friendly airspace..
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These are PAF kills. One Su30 in Akhnoor and the other is Mirage2000 in Pampore. Just ignore Indian stories as they never add up.
 
flyingorca said:
These are PAF kills. One Su30 in Akhnoor and the other is Mirage2000 in Pampore. Just ignore Indian stories as they never add up.
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I am not denying kills of PAF , but just that it would be hella embarrassing for the indian to get their ass whooped by PAF and have a friendly fire incident
 
kimjongun said:
OK , so this might be a little old to talk about but indians were saying something during the conflict on a blue on blue by the IAF , probably by an AD , we had a video of Akash intercepting something in pampore...also we had an AD kill too right? the mirage 2000 by the HQ9? @Oscar said something about it some time back...To add to it the Abhijiet iyer also said some words about friendly fire...
Some vids ,
Akash engaging a target..What was it...All our boys were inside friendly airspace..
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AFAIK - the HQ-9 was used to engage a ballistic target - which is assumed to be a S-400 on the way to engage a fighter. The HQ-9 was not used as much primarily to preserve it as an asset and keep it rotating.


I would not put it beyond Bhaktoras to claim a friendly fire just to deny PAF a kill.
 
Oscar said:
While you are thinking of airbases or other infrastructure as losses - think also of individuals.

What Israel has taught India about is that crippling military leadership has a similar impact as taking out infrastructure because it becomes a headless chicken.

Remember, your troops were still willing to fight on in the various spots they held in 71 if Niazi did not surrender. A similar effect can be seen that in Iran’s previous 12 day conflict the loss of military leaders created a stun effect in response times.
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This post is so important to read and digest.
 
hasssanali8998 said:
yeah but surely that would be too risky , the response will be nuclear( maybe nasr strike on a garrison ) and if we dont than we should just give them up atp
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Kohi nahi that cigar dropping near Judicial Colony was a wake up call.
 
RescueRanger said:
This post is so important to read and digest.
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yeah but again we have nukes if they attack anyone high , that will incur serious response , i see them hitting high value infra but not personalities . pakistan is not iran or hezb
RescueRanger said:
Kohi nahi that cigar dropping near Judicial Colony was a wake up call.
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?? idk what u mean , can you explain
 
Oscar said:
While you are thinking of airbases or other infrastructure as losses - think also of individuals.

What Israel has taught India about is that crippling military leadership has a similar impact as taking out infrastructure because it becomes a headless chicken.

Remember, your troops were still willing to fight on in the various spots they held in 71 if Niazi did not surrender. A similar effect can be seen that in Iran’s previous 12 day conflict the loss of military leaders created a stun effect in response times.
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Great post.

Iran also learned a lesson from last year. Now they readily profess to a more decentralised "multi-nodal" management structure. Maybe last year's conflict was a good thing for them to prep them for this one.
 
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