Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mythbuster]

I have seen no confirmation other than a video that cuts off at the time of the explosion of an F-35 having been damaged by a missile.

Yes, I agree an F-35 has been bit. That's not open for dispute. It's all over the news.

How exactly it was hit has not been confirmed IMO. That is the question that is still open for dispute.

Who knows , it may turn out to be bird hit

 

[baqai]

I don't think you can repair an F-35 that easily, we don't know how much damage it sustained but plausibly takes more money to repair than it's worth.

hey PG good to have you back, glad to see you are safe, you were missed.

The way i see

1. Untouchable became touchable, F-35 no longer is "invincible"
2. 7 tankers out of commission/active duty
3. Damage carrier returning regardless of the reasons is also a blow to that superiority aura previously created
4. Every single day Iran keeps this war going is making USA and Israel look like fools

 

[Kyussis]

damn dawg, he took it there?

How come Trump didn't predict the Pearl Harbor attack?

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

I noticed that Iran fires missiles usually under the cover of clouds.

Makes sense generally speaking, any kind of obscuring of the launch locations from visual aerial surveillance is useful.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Who knows , it may turn out to be bird hit

Well, we do know it wasn't Kuwaiti.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Bro', I'm not disputing that part.

What I'm still questioning is the manner of how the 35 was hit. Was it indeed a missile or perhaps AAA as it was making a gun run.

valid question. video suggests some kind of missile interceptor. why do you doubt the video?

 

[Shags101]

I have seen no confirmation other than a video that cuts off at the time of the explosion of an F-35 having been damaged by a missile.

Yes, I agree an F-35 has been bit. That's not open for dispute. It's all over the news.

How exactly it was hit has not been confirmed IMO. That is the question that is still open for dispute.

I thought there’s actually a lot news”legit news sources not twitter) saying hit was hit by Iranian fire let’s assume yes maybe f 35 can’t be detected by radar but when your the only planes flying in the sky do you really need radar to visually see the plane

 

[Persian Gulf]

We both don't know how much damage it sustained but you're the only one that claims it can't be repaired that easily. I said until repaired didn't say when it will fly.


How do you know if you don't know the damage it sustained?

complex piece of kit. any damage to the engine (as indicated by the video) will not be easy to repair. extent of damage TBD so I'm just speculating.

 

[dbc]

We're still waiting for any proofs or sources showing the video is fake or edited/AI

proof? the proof is that the a single engine F-35 returned to base after its engine ate a missile. Do you believe in pixies and fairies just because you've seen a video of such creatures? I've seen FLIR videos of the F-35 in flight, the hot engine exhaust looks nothing like that video you shared.Finally, the missile plume and the missiles main body is disconnected.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

valid question. video suggests some kind of missile interceptor. why do you doubt the video?

Too many fake videos having been posted already for one thing. Though someone else had posted it's not been proven yet the video is fake.

 

[Persian Gulf]

hey PG good to have you back, glad to see you are safe, you were missed.

The way i see

1. Untouchable became touchable, F-35 no longer is "invincible"
2. 7 tankers out of commission/active duty
3. Damage carrier returning regardless of the reasons is also a blow to that superiority aura previously created
4. Every single day Iran keeps this war going is making USA and Israel look like fools

solid assessment, agree

also worth noting the other US carrier is staying > 1000km from Iranian coast, so it doesn't feel safe to get closer yet

 

[Flotilla]

Difference is one these presidents actually used their own judgment not foreign “leaders” with ulterior motives…..when you don’t listen to your own military and intelligence people and go along for the ride that you were dumb enough to believe you could put it in cruise control but now the brakes are off and your taking America on a collision course to disaster we can’t always pretend trump isn’t a complete narcissistic idiot Biden bad president trump worse president honestly it’s really that simple

Not to mention that Irán never attacked US. The problem is that US cannot have a non aligned military power capable of neutralizing Israel which is their brand in the Middle East.

Moreover ISRAEL PAID, FUNDED AND LET ISIS to take southern parts of Damascus during Syrian Civil war. And also Israel did NOTHING, absolutely nothing to stop Islamic State when they took nearly a third part of Irak, while Irán and PMU Khataib Hizbollah cleaned with Soleimani all Irak from Islamic State.

So Irán cleaned up the mess started by Bush Jr and Cheney. Nobody did more to avoid terrorism than Irán in the Middle East.

 

[PakAl]

 

[Kyussis]

Which Air Base??????????????????

The one that is in the shape of a crater!

 

[Shags101]

solid assessment, agree

also worth noting the other US carrier is staying > 1000km from Iranian coast, so it doesn't feel safe to get closer yet

If they make a dash for Hormuz expect a few days of them bombing everything on the coast of Iran suspected coastal defense site or not I think Iranians are keeping that one to their chest waiting for Americans or Israel to make a push for it they’ve either destroyed or disabled over 20 ships last count to be fair I think Houthis took out that many they definitely tried though hopefully Iran has upgraded their abilities if they finally are about to join in