Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

You doubt your own military and think Iranians somehow are more powerful?

Did Pakistan not take on the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, and also put up with NATO in Afghanistan this century?

What about taking on the much larger India (neighbour) for the last 78 years?

Iran isn't the only country who knows how to fight a war of survival.
No bro, I still believe Pakistan has a very strong army with a lot of tremendous experience. I am proud of them. They should continue to improve especially by developing a new Rocket Force that can respond faster and make quicker decisions.

Today’s battles are very different from the past including drone warfare, massive cheaper rocket systems and vice versa, just pay attention to Iran-US/Israel situations and write notes.

That's all I say.
 
Good confidence. this is what is expected from a mard e momin. No food, no gas no nothing..but I appreciate the confidence.

Be in Pakistan, then talk. Enjoy your life overseas.
You will probably get the same response from within Pakistan despite your attempts to feel good by pushing jibes.
To answer your question there is no idea what the actual agreement is within the mutual defense pact - but that being said - considering that the Saudis are still willing to keep Pakistan on a lifeline and have on many occasion helped finance defense purchases which invariably lead to Indian deaths - I would not self pleasure my senses on chides regarding the validity of the mutual defense pact and instead look at the historical value of the relationship despite its ups and downs which at the end is SANS INDIA in the reasons for its existence.

Unfortunately what is lost to most Indians and to many Pakistanis is that just because the Saudis would like to profit off India and Indians does not directly impact the Pakistani relationship because that comes with state security guarantees that India has not and frankly cannot commit to the level.

Now, if you wish to make another mockery of my religion - I will ban you permanently. Comprende?
 
Yes. Who's more important to China, Iran or Pakistan?

Both China and Russia gave up on Venezuela last year, and Russia also gave up on Syria not so long ago.

China is the largest exporter of goods on Earth. Who are their largest importers?


Pakistan, because they are attacking Saudi Arabia, and we have a defence pact that says attack on one is attack on both. We are under attack.

Why should we allow anyone to attack us like this?


No choice. War is being imposed on Saudi Arabia, and Iranians think this is a joke.


They can get the same oil from Russia. China's exports are more important than their oil imports from one country, that might not be exporting anything soon.


Pakistan is a nuclear power. Please don't expect Pakistan to take it lying down from a wannabe nuclear power run by some religious fanatics.
I cannot speak for the Chinese government, but I can represent the views of a considerable portion of educated Chinese citizens.
The Chinese government has better relations and more trust with Pakistan. Emotionally, Chinese people like Pakistan more. But in terms of geopolitics and national interests, Iran is more important.

The world has now essentially divided into two major camps: China and the United States. Iran is a complete opponent of the United States, while Pakistan is not. Before this war, because there were many pro-American factions in Iran, China was betrayed by Iran many times; as a result, China’s relations with Iran were even less favorable than with Saudi Arabia, and Chinese internet has always regarded Iran as a clown. But Khamenei was killed by the United States, and Iran’s pro-American factions were pushed aside. Iran has been very brave in confronting the United States in this war, and China is a nation that greatly admires heroes and sacrifice, so it has gained the support of the Chinese public.

China’s foreign policy is conservative and cautious, so China has no allies. To gain China’s full support, you need to prove your courage and ability. Russia has proven itself, Pakistan proved itself on May 7, and now Iran has proven itself. Therefore, unlike Venezuela and Syria, China will definitely help Iran. In addition, although Modi and Indian trolls are trying hard to portray India as China’s opponent, in reality China has never taken India seriously; India is not a major threat. So, geopolitically, compared to Pakistan containing India in South Asia, Iran containing the United States and Israel in the Middle East is far more important.

The root of this war lies in the invasion of Iran by the United States and Israel, and the bombing that killed Iran's Supreme Leader Khamenei. The whole world is criticizing the U.S. and Israel, even America's traditional allies have not actually joined the war. Why should Pakistan join the United States and Israel against Iran? If Pakistan were invaded by India and the United States in the future, would it still receive support from the international community?

Regarding Saudi Arabia and Iran, Saudi Arabia faces two threats: Israel and Iran. By allowing the U.S. to station troops on its territory, Saudi Arabia is essentially yielding to Israel and relying on U.S. military protection to guard against an Iranian attack. However, this war shows that the U.S. cannot protect Saudi Arabia, and cannot even protect itself. In fact, it is the presence of U.S. troops that has brought disaster to Saudi Arabia. Why doesn't Saudi Arabia expel U.S. troops and rely on other means to protect itself? With China's mediation, Saudi Arabia and Iran have already peacefully coexisted. If they also rely on Pakistan's military and China's weapons support, Saudi Arabia can completely confront Israel.

Although Pakistan needs Saudi funding and oil, and has agreements with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan's real enemy is India. Currently, Pakistan faces a very dangerous two-front situation. Opening a third front would be sheer suicide. Saudi Arabia should understand the predicament Pakistan is in; if Saudi Arabia pressures Pakistan, then Saudi Arabia is not a reliable friend.

Starting wars in the Middle East and causing Muslims to kill each other is what Israel and the United States have been doing for decades. The biggest threat in the Middle East will always be Israel, and Israel can never coexist peacefully with Muslims. Today it is Iran, tomorrow it will be Turkey, the day after tomorrow it will be Saudi Arabia, and then Pakistan. This is very obvious. Therefore, Pakistan should remain neutral and persuade Saudi Arabia and Iran to stay calm, at least not to engage in war until Saudi territory is actually occupied.The world is entering chaos; staying calm and choosing the right side is actually very difficult.
 
Good confidence. this is what is expected from a mard e momin. No food, no gas no nothing..but I appreciate the confidence.

Be in Pakistan, then talk. Enjoy your life overseas.

Good, I too did not expect anything different from a watsapp university chaddi andhbakht graduate.

No food is still better than bathing in cow piss and having cow dung for breakfast, lunch and dinner. By the way, how is the street gutter gas project for cooking going? Your PM has very high hopes based on his personal experience in this field, he has tested and tried this when he used sell tea. Plus there should not be problem exploiting those huge gas reserves when most of india looks and breathes gutter.

Be your sir khans and other unlimited idiots keep you high on your supa powa delusion and remain ignorant about Pakistan.
 
No surprise people forget that when Saudi Arabia, stupidly, started bombing Yemen our Pakistani parliament actually unanimously voted too stay out of it. Also the problem is this deal is geography not like NATo where, nearly, all countries are next to each other. Part of the problem with this pact is the two countries have a limited ability to project power into each others region.
 
No surprise people forget that when Saudi Arabia, stupidly, started bombing Yemen our Pakistani parliament actually unanimously voted too stay out of it. Also the problem is this deal is geography not like NATo where, nearly, all countries are next to each other. Part of the problem with this pact is the two countries have a limited ability to project power into each others region.
Well put , people are neglecting the core and going off on the tangent.
 
Good confidence. this is what is expected from a mard e momin. No food, no gas no nothing..but I appreciate the confidence.

Be in Pakistan, then talk. Enjoy your life overseas.



Your special relationship with Israelis More like a poodle an a abusive relationship 😆



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Pakistan must not participate against Muslim neighbors or any Muslim country including Iran, it is not good idea to nuke them all.

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For MBS, Yeh jo itna muskura rahe ho, kia gum hai jisko chupa rahe ho...

The only two countries in the region that have aspirations to attack his country are killing each other while the same oil is being sold at twice the price. As some of our Saudi members on thr forum have pointed out, KSA has had much to smile about. Objectively this seems to be true.
 
Pakistan must not participate against Muslim neighbors or any Muslim country including Iran, it is not good idea to nuke them all. ...
We are already bombing Afghanistan back to the 18th century.

Saudi Arabia is home to 2.7 million Pakistanis, therefore, it is also our home, and we will defend it come what may.

We are the only Muslim nation in over a century that has been invited to defend the Two Holy Mosques of Islam. While other countries have only dreamed and plotted for decades to gain control of the Citadel of Islam, we have been chosen to carry out this duty.
 
Pakistan must not participate against Muslim neighbors or any Muslim country including Iran, it is not good idea to nuke them all.

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Arab already have US defence pact , why dragging Pakistan. They know Pakistan already stretch too thin , massive deployment in Baluchistan, Afghan-India border.
 

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