Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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[Cash gk]

We all know what is cooking in Pakistan but that discussion belongs in a separate thread.

If we discuss this in any other forum still you will be banned
This is well connected with Iran Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. As the packet between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is very very important. It is very important to understand that Pakistani borders will be open if Iran fails. If we play any role to dismantle Iran, we will sign on our death warrant

 

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I think the Ullema's needs to calm down a bit, the foreign policy doesn't run on emotions, Pakistan-KSA has a defense pact, nobody knows what are its points or clauses, but even before the PACT was signed Pakistan always said that they will protect the KSA from anyone. Now In this situation even if it comes to that, the most Pakistan will be doing that is to send a Sq of fighters to intercept drones/BM. But they won't be taking part in any offensive against Iran.

 

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[Watandar]

they aren't there for Iran but to make regional Monarchs feel warm and fuzzy. We already saw signs of civil disorder in Bahrain. The Monarchs are deeply insecure.

The monarchs hire brown soldiers from South Asia for such bodyguard and public suppression duties. They see US Marines as serving a much higher purpose.

 

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[Starlord]

they aren't there for Iran but to make regional Monarchs feel warm and fuzzy. We already saw signs of civil disorder in Bahrain. The Monarchs are deeply insecure.

What's the point of been a leader or monarch when you are always on the edge and scared of uprisings and regional conflict? I mean I understand Arabs are stuck between a ditch and hard place, but they are partially to blamed for what is unfolding in the region.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Before all this (truly) over...

I REALLY want to see a B-52 go down.

It would be even more cool if its filmed.

Not going to happen. They use long range SOW and Iran has no long range HIMAD, or airforce left.

 

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[Oscar]

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At the end if certain folks have loyalty to Iran vs Pakistan then really there is nothing stopping them. (just as it would be if the Iranian people wanted to help Pakistan but the Iranian state chooses to remain neutral due to its relationship with both India and Pakistan).
Pakistan at a state level has chosen to do its best and remain as a neutral party between GCC and Iran - Israel/US arent a primary or even teritiary driving factor in this relationship.

After all, if Iran has used its overt manipulation of the Shia Religious leadership in Pakistan to send thousands of Pakistanis to die for Iran's own geopolitical needs then surely those people can go and do the same if they feel their loyalties to Iran outweigh those to Pakistan but at an individual level. The state of Pakistan cannot be compelled to do Iran's bidding and must look out for it's interest just as Iran did when it allowed India to operate spies and operatives against the Pakistani state.

It is illogical to suggest that the majority of Pakistanis dont feel what is happening to Iran as unjust and a direct war against muslims but statecraft takes precedence unfortunately and always has over any Muslim brotherhood and to pretend Iran doesn't do the same is hypocrisy.

 

[Starlord]

Before all this (truly) over...

I REALLY want to see a B-52 go down.

It would be even more cool if its filmed.

At what height does a plane like B-52 bomber fly ? and can SHORAD's reach that height?

 

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[dbc]

The monarchs hire brown soldiers from South Asia for such bodyguard and public suppression duties. They see US Marines as serving a much higher purpose.

neither public suppression nor protection I suspect the Marines will secure exfil for precious cargo if things go south.