Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Trumps trying calm oil futures markets until the Marines arrive on station - he needs to keep this simmering for one more week or so

Trump in his ego has been trapped in the ladder of escalation

He can’t accept defeat- how will a ‘wind down of military ops’ loom when Iran still keep firing

and are already opening up to US troops - their ego can’t have a strong Iran across the seashore

It’s all an ego war now

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iran denies having Spare oil to sell, says Scott Bessent is trying to manipulate oil price.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Let's destroy King Fahd Air Base too.

a few cluster bombs should help

but we really need to target:

- oil and gas infra (their east to west pipeline)
- project 2030 landmarks
- international projects
- palaces of their fat princes

 

[Aggregate]

Highly unlikely Iran agrees to a ceasefire without:

A) addressing issue of reparations

B) addressing issue of sanctions

C) addressing issue of future attacks

D) addressing issue of nuclear program

It would be a big mistake on the side of Iran if they agree to anything less than treaty level agreement.

Or else just like the June war, US/Israel will re arm, re strategize, re group etc and come back in months to years.

Iran cannot keep playing the stait of Hormuz card an infinite amount of times.

Thus this war must be a war that leads to a permanent conclusion one way or another. And I said this war should have been done back in 2023-2024 when Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, Iraqi PMU, Syria were all at near full strength.

Instead many Iranian users said it was implausible for us to fight America and Israel at the same time and dismissed any notion that the “enemy” would eventually bring the fight to Iran directly. They seemed to think Iran still had enough deterrence. Unfortunately since 2020 Solemani killing all they showed Trump was in fact weakness in his mind.

I think its important to keep the larger picture in view here though. This war is not about either Iran or the US winning. Pentagon did wargaming of US boots on the ground many times and they came up with a major loss, in every case. Why are both Gulf and US are constantly busy shooting themselves in the feet by forcing Iran to fight them ? The only one winning here is the country that wanted and carefully planned this all ... that is israel.

Nethanyahu a few days back said something to his people, on the lines of "we will emerge as the single biggest superpower of the East, after this war". Which sounded very odd at the time, but he has a habit of announcing his plans in a very sinister way and despite how much everyone hates israel, most o the time, israel is able to pull it all off. If one looks at this war:

• Gulf states are getting devastated
• Iran, which is the least to be blamed for this all, is still facing long lasting damages in terms of infra & economy.
• EU, East Asia, especially China are losing hugely in terms of economy.
• US is losing its influence in the Middle East, as well its military might (which was at least a protection for Gulf, until Trump came over).
• Other than a few missiles falling here and there, israel is not really suffering any consequences.

What Nethanyahu might be looking from this war, especially considering his statement (and what many Western analysts have now started to believe), is that israel is lookig at becoming the US of the East, with all of the Middle East resources at its command and all governments under its defacto control (much like Lebanon/Syria/Jordan/Middle East, etc) once both Iran is weakened and US control of the region is gone. Gulf states have no power left to decide their fate anyway. Now israel is absorbing some losses and letting the rest play out as all sides weaken.

In this all, unless the US wakes up and starts thinking in its own benefit, or else, Iran goes for the nukes or China intervenes in some significant way to protect its economy, nothing much is gonna happen other than everyone losing while israel expands its influence.

Another possibility that many are mentioning that Iran inflicts so much economical damages via Hormuz, while resisting all attempts at opening it up, that the global powers cannot hold up anymore and have to intervene in the form of some regional alliance, to contain israel and its devastation. All other deals, ceasefires, etc are pointless and short term. Nethanyahu and israelies might be the worst scum history has ever produced, but they do know very well, as to what they're doing, otherwise.

 

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I want Saudis to be hurt. These retards have enough clout to have Trumps ear and sort this sh1t out.
Hope Iran knock some hardware out

Imagine the insanity!
As they attacked Iran... evacuated their bases in the region... knowing fully well the implications and that they would be under direct Iranian fire. It was self preservation over the region. It was throwing the region to fire with perch provided by these monarchies. And the gravy train has not stopped... they keep buying weapons and supplies.... making themselves the human shields for zion. When critical interceptors were relocated to protect zion and Arabs left to not only fend for themselves provide protection to those bases that houses power to project ... eyes and ears of zion.

Once seen you cannot unsee it. The sovereignty these clowns claim is under the firm canopy of American and zionist control. Where Arab possessions and life is a chess piece on the table for the collective. Used and discarded as needed.

 

[Bharatah]

I think its important to keep the larger picture in view here though. This war is not about either Iran or the US winning. Pentagon did wargaming of Us boots on the groundd many times and they came up with a major loss, in every case. The only one winning here is the country that wanted and carefully planned this all ... that is israel.

Nethanyahu a few days back said something to his people, on the lines of "we will emerge as the single biggest superpower of the East, after this war". Which sounded very odd at the time, but is becoming very evident, slowly. Since, in this war:

• Gulf states are getting devastated
• Iran is facing long lasting damages in terms of infra & economy.
• EU, East Asia, especially China are losing hugely in terms of economy.
• US is losing its influence in the Middle East, as well its military might, which gives Israel the perfect opportunity to become a regional power.
• Other than a few missiles falling here and there, israel is not really suffering any consequences and they have nukes, if things become desparate.

What Nethanyahu might be looking from this war, especially considering his statement (and what many Western analysts have now started to warn), is that israel is lookig at becoming the US of the East, with all of the Middle East resources at its command and all governments under its defacto control (much like Lebanon/Syria/Jordan/Middle East, etc) once both Iran is weakened and US control of the region is gone. Gulf states have no power left to decide their fate anyway. Now israel is absorbing some losses and letting the rest play out.

In this all, unless the US wakes up and starts thinking in its own benefit, or else, Iran goes for the nukes or China intervenes in some significant way to protect itself, nothing much is gonna happen other than everyone losing while israel expands its influence. All other deals, ceasefires, etc are pointless and short term. Nethanyahu might be the worst scum history has ever produced, but he always openly announces whatever he is doing, in the most sinister of ways.

My friend, what Zionism seeks is a NARRATIVE OF VICTORY! To reach that level of dominance, it's far from being able to do so! If Iran isn't destroyed, occupied, or fragmented, it won't emerge weakened; on the contrary, it will emerge STRENGTHENED, with its entire underground military industry and those in other countries (Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq) 100% functional, and still receiving equipment from other countries via Afghanistan. Israel can't win, so it seeks a narrative of victory that is already being implanted in the media and in videos on the internet.

NOTE: There's no way Israel can take over American bases in the Middle East because Israel alone can't occupy Gaza or advance against the Hezbollah militia in southern Lebanon. How is it going to control several countries where 100% of the population hates it, and with Iran having missiles and drones, Iraqi PMUs, Houthis in Yemen, Afghan tribes... it's impossible. This is just another victory narrative being constructed, like the one that said "Hezbollah is weakened"—we saw the "weakened Hezbollah" there.

My friend, what Zionism seeks is a NARRATIVE OF VICTORY! To reach that level of dominance, it's far from being able to do so! If Iran isn't destroyed, occupied, or fragmented, it won't emerge weakened; on the contrary, it will emerge STRENGTHENED, with its entire underground military industry and those in other countries (Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq) 100% functional, and still receiving equipment from other countries via Afghanistan. Israel can't win, so it seeks a narrative of victory that is already being implanted in the media and in videos on the internet.


NOTE 2: The US losing its bases is the biggest defeat in the country's history, so the controlled media and internet have to explain this to the "gadolandia" somehow. They've already come up with this narrative that the US left because they wanted to, to hand them over to Israel... which is a lie. The US is leaving because Iran keeps launching missiles and drones there, and if Israel takes over the bases, it will be attacked too.

 

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Nethanyahu a few days back said something to his people, on the lines of "we will emerge as the single biggest superpower of the East, after this war". Which sounded very odd at the time, but is becoming very evident, slowly. Since, in this war:

Yes, that was clearly stated by him. It's all about Pax Judaica and the Israeli Hegemony of the region.

After this war is done. And I believe Iran will lose ultimately just because of the odds stacked against it. But Iran is going to give them a hell of a time going down. The brave people of Iran should never be forgotten.

But Israel will come on top. It is foretold that's when the real destruction and the death and the mayhem of all the Arabs starts ... "Woe to the Arabs from an evil that is about to happen"... Is the emergence of IsraHell.

That is phase two. Israel as the region's superpower will bring nothing but death and destruction upon the goyim

 

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My friend, what Zionism seeks is a NARRATIVE OF VICTORY! To reach that level of dominance, it's far from being able to do so! If Iran isn't destroyed, occupied, or fragmented, it won't emerge weakened; on the contrary, it will emerge STRENGTHENED, with its entire underground military industry and those in other countries (Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq) 100% functional, and still receiving equipment from other countries via Afghanistan. Israel can't win, so it seeks a narrative of victory that is already being implanted in the media and in videos on the internet.

NOTE: There's no way Israel can take over American bases in the Middle East because Israel alone can't occupy Gaza or advance against the Hezbollah militia in southern Lebanon. How is it going to control several countries where 100% of the population hates it, and with Iran having missiles and drones, Iraqi PMUs, Houthis in Yemen, Afghan tribes... it's impossible. This is just another victory narrative being constructed, like the one that said "Hezbollah is weakened"—we saw the "weakened Hezbollah" there.

My friend, what Zionism seeks is a NARRATIVE OF VICTORY! To reach that level of dominance, it's far from being able to do so! If Iran isn't destroyed, occupied, or fragmented, it won't emerge weakened; on the contrary, it will emerge STRENGTHENED, with its entire underground military industry and those in other countries (Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq) 100% functional, and still receiving equipment from other countries via Afghanistan. Israel can't win, so it seeks a narrative of victory that is already being implanted in the media and in videos on the internet.

NOTE: There's no way Israel can take over American bases in the Middle East because Israel alone can't occupy Gaza or advance against Hezbollah's militia in southern Lebanon. How is it going to control several countries where 100% of the population hates it, and with Iran possessing missiles and drones, Iraqi PMUs, Houthis in Yemen, Afghan tribes... it's impossible. This is just another victory narrative being constructed, like the one that said "Hezbollah is weakened"—we saw the "weakened Hezbollah" there.

NOTE 2: The US losing its bases is the biggest defeat in the country's history, so the controlled media and internet have to explain this to the "gadolandia" somehow. They've already come up with this narrative that the US left because they wanted to, to hand them over to Israel... which is a lie. The US is leaving because Iran keeps launching missiles and drones there, and if Israel takes over the bases, it will be attacked too.

Israel will do it through proxy. It will achieve its goals through balkanization and break up of regional countries. Its model is based on the Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan Libya fail-State models. As long as you break the countries up and you get them to fight each other into perpetuity. Then Israel does not need to have physical dominance. It's through covert and terror that Israel will rule. Divide and conquer taken to the extreme level. And Muslims will Gladly kill each other. There will be so-called Muslim nations aligned with Israel doing its bidding such as the GCC countries, Morocco, Azerbaijan, etc. Israel will break every nation and that is already happening.

Additionally, they'll own the financial system, the banking system. The US dollar will be replaced with something that's Israel controlled. AI and wireless technology will be primarily controlled by Israel.

Israel has already proven they dominate in the covert assassination through spies and other networks.

 

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[Whirling_dervesh]

Pakistan should honour the saudi defence pact on the following conditions:

1. Saudi Spend the 250 billion 2017-2025 money on Pakistan offered to the USA for defence procurement.

2. Remove USA presence at kind abdul aziz and price sultan air bases.

3. Reduce all Indian workers from saudi lands to bare minimum

3. Pakistan stations and defends saudi from any external aggression and provides full nuclear umbrella

Iran would immediately stop any attacks….pakistan gets a huge presence near palestine to keep pesky zios in check

Win Win